Shut Down

[10mm-man]

Just in case nobody really picked up on that reference....

It was double entendre actually... Yes, hurricane related of course.

AND....the song is about someone doin' some fuckin', and someone getting fucked.

It is sad that many regular good hard working folk, are being affected by the "shut down". I don't like that, not cool.

But when do we, as a nation, plan to get the fuck out of debt? Sure, lets blame the dems for hard prick dick sucking wanting to GIVE everybody everything, and blame the Rpubs for BLOCKING progress and hurting all these folks by squabbling about bullshit.

Quick, everybody!! Lets get all these horrible elected officials who retain their fat cat fucking salaries and high end healthcare, and non social security paying fuckwads.....to all agree to RAISE the debt ceiling again, so we can keep doling out money to useless fucking nations, in all kinds of full retard aid....for what? A base with a few airstrips in a strategic location? Some backing in the U.N.? (which we fund most of anyways)... fucking PR?........ gobs of money for disasters around the world, and when shit hits the fan here at home......Bullshit response, our own people in really bad shape....the nonsense horseshit will never end. Sorry, a little ranty there... but...

When are we gonna fix our own debt? Fix the books here FIRST...we have to. Keep passing the buck...NO.....is it gonna hurt? Yes.


I say start now.

I am with you- weaning off the Gov tit isn't going to be easy, but it is necessary..........

[Gman]

The fact that this shutdown is impacting so many people should be a red flag to the citizenry. The Federal government is doing too much in our daily lives.

[RblDiver]

I have a tendency not to watch the news on weekends, but surprised this didn't make a bigger splash. So yeah, if the Senate passes this bill, it just means this whole thing has been a paid vacation. (I think we all knew this would happen anyway, but this is codifying it).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...owdown/?page=2

"Meeting over the weekend, the House passed a bill to guarantee that all federal employees get paid for the shutdown — even those who have been on furlough. But they, like most employees still on the job, will have to wait until funding is returned to collect paychecks."

[speedysst]

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006

[cstone]

I have a tendency not to watch the news on weekends, but surprised this didn't make a bigger splash. So yeah, if the Senate passes this bill, it just means this whole thing has been a paid vacation. (I think we all knew this would happen anyway, but this is codifying it).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...owdown/?page=2

"Meeting over the weekend, the House passed a bill to guarantee that all federal employees get paid for the shutdown — even those who have been on furlough. But they, like most employees still on the job, will have to wait until funding is returned to collect paychecks."

Did the story mention that the Democratic lead Senate will pass this same bill this week and President Obama has already indicated he will sign the bill into law. Retroactively paying federal employees for the furlough is, and always has been, a bipartisan issue. No one in Congress wants to penalize employees for the failures of Congress and the President. At least the DOD realized that if they are going to get paid anyway, why have the employees sitting at home. The whole notion of essential and non-essential is a futile attempt by some bureaucrat to justify positions and budgets. If an administrator admits that 90% of his employees are non-essential, what does that make him?

This is no longer a shutdown. 83% of federal employees are working, although there is no specific date on when we can expect to be paid. Congress needs to pass legislation that the President will sign which will authorize the expenditure of funds. If anything is shut down right now, it is purely a political move to cause anxiety and discomfort to voters. The President hopes that this discomfort will cause these voters to put pressure on the House Republicans.

Who will blink first? Who will control the legislative agenda for the next two years?

[cstone]

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006

Excellent quote. I'm guessing you won't see that in the Washington Post or the New York Times, much less on the CBS Evening News.

[clublights]

"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."
SENATOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, MARCH 2006

That's goin on facebook RIGHT now...

[speedysst]

Ive seen it before but wanted to check the sources a bit before I quoted. Its actually two parts of a long speech. Oh, by the way, the Pres' favorite golf course at Andrews AFB is not shut down but the commissary where troops can buy food is.

[roberth]

Ive seen it before but wanted to check the sources a bit before I quoted. Its actually two parts of a long speech. Oh, by the way, the Pres' favorite golf course at Andrews AFB is not shut down but the commissary where troops can buy food is.

See, it is all about allocation of monies.

The troops who fight, bleed, and die for this great nation are second in line to a golf course for a fuckstain who has never done one goddamn thing for this country or anyone in it.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Ive seen it before but wanted to check the sources a bit before I quoted. Its actually two parts of a long speech. Oh, by the way, the Pres' favorite golf course at Andrews AFB is not shut down but the commissary where troops can buy food is.

To be completely fair, the golf course is paid through non-appropriated funds (NAF) which means a stoppage in federal funds doesn't affect golf course operations. The commissary is run by DECA which has officials paid for through appropriated funds. A more appropriate analogy and complaint is that private inns and open air parks are being shuttered around the country and people being evicted from their homes because they sit on or are accessed through national park lands while the president can still go golfing despite its sitting on federal property.