NASCAR

[clublights]

These guys have balls of solid stone. Knowing how many people have died racing the IOM and still they get out there and push to the limit every year.

Something like 240 deaths in 106 years ...

[3beansalad]

Something like 240 deaths in 106 years ...

and a few spectators in the history of the race as well, and yet none of that would keep me away. I'd still love to ride Mad Sunday!

[Ronin13]

NO No no


THIS is real Racing...

Akin to that, my favorite race of the year, makes Daytona look freaking boring (because it is...)

[Ridge]

I Can't believe this guy lived ...

That first bounce saves his life. He'd have gone into that stone wall otherwise.

[MrPrena]

Straight Line





Spec comparison (incl circuit time)
> +22 sec slower on Moto GP



Sepang Circuit (Malaysian GP Circuit)
McLaren Mercedes F1 Driven by Jensen Button
~1:37

MotoGP 2:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN8oLNRpqMk

[clublights]

IF the bike had an equal power to weight ratio it might stand a chance LOL ... tho probably not with twice the contact patches with probably 10 times the surface area.. each.

but I'd like to see how an F1 car does on the TT course heh.

[clublights]

I stand corrected.. I thought the f1 cars had a much better power to weight ratio then motogp bikes.. they are about the same with some bikes even beating out the cars...

so it's all about downforce and contact patches.

[clublights]

Akin to that, my favorite race of the year, makes Daytona look freaking boring (because it is...)

Laguna Seca is a great track .. and the only thing good about daytona is it's the first race and it's kinda neat to see the bikes on the banking... but that gets boring fast.

[Ronin13]

Laguna Seca is a great track .. and the only thing good about daytona is it's the first race and it's kinda neat to see the bikes on the banking... but that gets boring fast.

Downside- AMA Superbike has an event at Laguna, but GP now does the Red Bull Grand Prix America in TX. No more LS for GP, which sucks, because when they brought GP back to LS in 2005 (11 year break) Nicky Hayden won it back to back in '05 and '06. USA! USA!

[Gman]

I stand corrected.. I thought the f1 cars had a much better power to weight ratio then motogp bikes.. they are about the same with some bikes even beating out the cars...

so it's all about downforce and contact patches.

Downforce sucking the car onto the track.

The old 1990's Indy Cars had enough downforce that they could drive on an inverted track at over 100mph and not fall off. I would imagine the modern F1 cars could beat that.

ETA: Found this; http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/un...port/5281.html

Several teams started to experiment with the now familiar wings in the late 1960s. Race car wings operate on exactly the same principle as aircraft wings, only in reverse. Air flows at different speeds over the two sides of the wing (by having to travel different distances over its contours) and this creates a difference in pressure, a physical rule known as Bernoulli's Principle. As this pressure tries to balance, the wing tries to move in the direction of the low pressure. Planes use their wings to create lift, race cars use theirs to create downforce. A modern Formula One car is capable of developing 3.5 g lateral cornering force (three and a half times its own weight) thanks to aerodynamic downforce. That means that, theoretically, at high speeds they could drive upside down.