Private Party FFL Transfer

[stodg73]

Not sure, but between $20 and $50.

[Jer]

Takes them more than 3 minutes.. Private party transfers are a money losing proposition for most shops so why do it?

Most every other businesses actually PAYS to get customers in the door. Arrogant gun shops actually get paid to get customers in the door and complain about it? Yeah, I'll take my business elsewhere you can't help me out. I've had others that do NFA refuse to take my transfers because the item I'm buying is priced less than they sell it for and they refuse to price match or even come close. I'll take my business elsewhere. It amazes me how gun shops make money in spite of the worst customer service of any other business in existence. You want to make money beyond your wildest dreams? Open a gun shop, have a reasonable inventory and then employ people for their customer service ability and not their ability to tell racist or homophobic joke or how they voted in the last election. You'll have to hire another full-time person just to count the money.

[def90]

Most every other businesses actually PAYS to get customers in the door. Arrogant gun shops actually get paid to get customers in the door and complain about it? Yeah, I'll take my business elsewhere you can't help me out. I've had others that do NFA refuse to take my transfers because the item I'm buying is priced less than they sell it for and they refuse to price match or even come close. I'll take my business elsewhere. It amazes me how gun shops make money in spite of the worst customer service of any other business in existence. You want to make money beyond your wildest dreams? Open a gun shop, have a reasonable inventory and then employ people for their customer service ability and not their ability to tell racist or homophobic joke or how they voted in the last election. You'll have to hire another full-time person just to count the money.

Why do I have a feeling that you have never owned or operated a small business?

[Jer]

Why do I have a feeling that you have never owned or operated a small business?

You would be VERY wrong. Nice try though. I guess you've run several multi-million dollar businesses w/o an advertising budget?

[ray1970]

It amazes me how gun shops make money in spite of the worst customer service of any other business in existence.

You don't eat much fast food, do you?

[Jer]

Lets whip it out and start measuring wankers.

But no, you wouldn't "hire a full-time person just to count the money".

Firearm sales have probably the worst profitability of any business.

You've got to be around for many many years to make it even work. Niches can make good.
But good CS isn't the whole picture.

Guys like savings $ more than they do talking. Where jewelry has a markup of 80%, guns you're lucky if you truly even have 8%.

It's called hyperbole. I wasn't serious about needing to hire a full-time employee to count the money but I was making a point that if someone could merge the simple idea of customer service with the business of selling firearms and firearms accessories that seems to be profitable despite the employees they couldn't help but be successful. I guess I took this website for smarter people than that.

[Jer]

You don't eat much fast food, do you?

I have. Recently. And had poor experiences. They still don't turn customers away because they don't 'make enough money' on whatever the loss leader is that they waste billions advertising. We wonder why the average citizen doesn't get into firearms.... have you seen our ambassadors to someone trying to learn more about firearms? It's no mystery and drives me nuts. Too many 'gun people' behind the counters.

[MrPrena]

Off topic, but regarding bad service and fast food.


One of the reason I go to fast food is the damn service is better than a fu*kin restaurants which sells north of $40 per dish. Seems like those stupid @ss restaurants are privately owned. I rarely get a bad services at a corporate/franchisee owned restaurants. Again, it is always fu*king privately owned restaurants.

I recently told one of the owner at a sushi place that "I would rather eat a 99cent mcdouble and have a average service, than eat a good food with shitty service you provided tonight."
I also went to one of the Korean BBQ place 2 weeks ago in Aurora next to M-mart. Damn, they have a shitty service.

It is truly sad that I get a far better service at Arby's/Wendy's employees who make minimum wage than a decent restaurant waiter/waitress who makes north of $70k.
Oh yeah, I get a better freaking service at Gander or even Sportsman's than some average privately owned restaurants.

[BlasterBob]

While we are on the subject of crappy service, I have to condense my story about treatment in SOME gun shops. Way back in the mid 50's, because of my love of firearms, I joined the Army to get the training to be a Small Arms Repairman. I did attend the Small Arms Repair school at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland and really enjoyed the course they provided. I did that with the thought of eventually becoming a REAL gunsmith in civilian life. The civilian thing never did materialize. Now, after seeing so damn many gunsmiths with their prima donna attitudes, when talking with potential customers, I feel fortunate that I didn't pursue that vocation because I might have turned out the same way. There are a lot of really nice/friendly gunsmiths out here however the small number of them who are condescending and look down on us folks who have only a little more than basic knowledge of firearms really stand out. Again, most of the gunsmiths I have dealt with were really regular guys and very friendly but then there are those few a--holes really stand out. OK, flame away, I have my fire retardant suit handy.

[Tim K]

I have a guy in Woodland Park. Phil at Rocky Mountain Arms. (719)659-1197.