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    It seems like we have 3 ways to "fix" the law:

    (1) This court case

    (2) The upcoming election, which I could see going our way due to the recalls

    (3) A ballot initiative

    It seems like the ballot initiative would be our last resort, and it also seems like it would be the hardest. Obviously we can't affect the outcome of number 1, but we can definitely affect 2 by voting. If it comes to 3, we'll have to be on top of it. IIRC, it was in the pipeline to come up on the ballot for this election, but it was organized poorly and it got nowhere close to the number of required signatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberjager View Post
    It seems like we have 3 ways to "fix" the law:

    (1) This court case

    (2) The upcoming election, which I could see going our way due to the recalls

    (3) A ballot initiative

    It seems like the ballot initiative would be our last resort, and it also seems like it would be the hardest. Obviously we can't affect the outcome of number 1, but we can definitely affect 2 by voting. If it comes to 3, we'll have to be on top of it. IIRC, it was in the pipeline to come up on the ballot for this election, but it was organized poorly and it got nowhere close to the number of required signatures.
    Wasn't there already a ballot initiative last year that fell on its face?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rat View Post
    Wasn't there already a ballot initiative last year that fell on its face?
    Yes, but I seem to recall that there were 3 or 4 Marijuana legalization ballot initiatives that failed before the one for Amendment 64 made it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Yes, but I seem to recall that there were 3 or 4 Marijuana legalization ballot initiatives that failed before the one for Amendment 64 made it.
    That's not too encouraging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberjager View Post
    That's not too encouraging.
    How is that not encouraging? There's too many in our camp that have 100% given up on the idea of an amendment via ballot initiative because the first two attempts failed to get off the ground.

    I think a lot of people are in a "wait-and-see" frame of mind vis ah vis the lawsuit and the upcoming election. If the lawsuit fails I expect we'll see a lot of people start talking about a ballot initiative (which may be one reason they're going to delay releasing the judgement until its too close to the elections for an initiative movement to get on the ballot this election).
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    How is that not encouraging? There's too many in our camp that have 100% given up on the idea of an amendment via ballot initiative because the first two attempts failed to get off the ground.

    I think a lot of people are in a "wait-and-see" frame of mind vis ah vis the lawsuit and the upcoming election. If the lawsuit fails I expect we'll see a lot of people start talking about a ballot initiative (which may be one reason they're going to delay releasing the judgement until its too close to the elections for an initiative movement to get on the ballot this election).
    I thought the ship had already sailed on that for this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberjager View Post
    I thought the ship had already sailed on that for this election.
    Well I meant the General on November 4th, not the primary election June 24th. But yeah, it would probably be too little time to get the signatures in and approved before November.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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