Former MN Gov. Ventura wants to add widow to suit against Navy SEAL Chris Kyle

[davsel]

And he didn't really sue the estate. He sued Kyle personally before he died. After he died the lawsuit shifted to the estate. Which is 100% normal.

When you're a douche!

[Mr.Fred]

Which SEAL team was the douche a member of?

Underwater demo team 12.

When you're a douche!

I didn't say he wasn't a douche. I have reasons for thinking he's a douche, but not because of his lawsuit.

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[davsel]

Underwater demo team 12.

Not a SEAL team then?

[Mr.Fred]

Not a SEAL team then?

Still a seal team. He still graduated from bud/s. Basic underwater demo/seal training. So, still more training than 99% of us will ever have.

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[davsel]

Let me preface this with saying, I'm not a Ventura fan in any stretch of the imagination...But I'm even less of a Kyle fan and I'll tell you why.

You all seem to be pissed at Ventura for suing Kyle for an obvious fabrication of the truth..... And maybe rightly so.

#1 I've never believed his Ventura story after watching his body language on the interview and this lawsuit just confirmed my suspicions. The "knocking out Ventura" story is not the first dubious tale that he's said.... Remember the story about killing two carjackers at a gas station??? Nobody can verify that including the local police department. No police reports, records, news stories, nothing...

And most of all, Kyle gloats about killing other human beings. Justified or unjustified, you don't gloat about taking the life of another human.

I know people that have killed people, civilians and military and they don't talk about it, as they should.

Are you aware of Governor douche stating this on air:?

"And I'll just tell you this: Until you've hunted man, you haven't hunted yet, Because you need to hunt something that can shoot back at you to really classify yourself as a hunter. You need to understand the feeling of what it's like to go into the field and know your opposition can take you out. Not just go out there and shoot Bambi."

In January 2002, the douche - although he had never outright claimed combat service in Vietnam, but heavily suggested it - disclosed that he had not seen combat. He was stationed at Subic Bay in the Philippines, and for this he received the Vietnam Service Medal, given to all military personnel who supported the war effort even though stationed outside South Vietnam

[sroz]

A quick search comes up with UDT Team 12 and SEAL Team 1. Not a fan of Ventura, but am also bothered by Kyle claiming all the proceeds from the book would go to fallen vets' families while it seems he had no intention of following thru with it.

[davsel]

The link in post #26 is an entertaining/informative read, and thoroughly explains the difference between SEAL and UDT, and where the douche served his time.
Here it is again: Jesse "The Great Pretender" Ventura

[Mr.Fred]

A quick search comes up with UDT Team 12 and SEAL Team 1. Not a fan of Ventura, but am also bothered by Kyle claiming all the proceeds from the book would go to fallen vets' families while it seems he had no intention of following thru with it.

I'm bothered by it too. Especially the reasoning behind why that his wife gave.

I think what this whole thing is is a case of two liars calling each other out.

Kyle has been documented lying as has Ventura.

Just because one served with great honor does not make him a saint.

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[Doc45]

I guess I'm old school, in my circle (and I'm NOT one, but know and worked with a few) a SEAL is one who continued on after BUD/S for the additional 26 weeks of SEAL training, completed it and was assigned to a Team. The douche (sorry to steal the title but it works) did NOT. As pointed out, assigned to UDT Team 12, yet as recent as yesterday morning on the morning news interview said he was a SEAL. If Chris Kyle lied-I'm pretty good at reading body language but can't tell from the short vid I saw with the radio guys if he did-any lies died with him. Douche will continue to lie every chance he gets. I'm done with this, anything he gets I hope he chokes on.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Not a SEAL team then?

Well, here's what Brandon Webb of SOFREP had to say about that:

http://sofrep.com/36086/truth-jesse-...vy-seal-status

I’ve heard the speculation and gossip about Jesse Ventura’s Navy SEAL status and wanted to set the record straight. Jesse Ventura graduated with Basic Underwater Demolition Class 58 and, like it or not, he earned his status. Some say he’s a UDT (Underwater Demolition Team), and not a “SEAL,” but that’s bullshit.

Others have seen the flaw in this analogy, and mentioned in private SEAL forums, “try telling that to a WWII UDT veteran who swam ashore before the landing craft on D-Day.” The UDT’s and SEALs are essentially one and the same. It’s why the UDT is still part of the training acronym BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL).

Like it or not, Jesse Ventura is a Navy SEAL. He did the pushups and put up with the cold water, just like the rest of us.

Webb's not sympathetic to Ventura, neither am I. On the other hand, a public figure like Ventura winning a defamation suit is nearly unheard of (as has been pointed out). A public figure winning the suit against the estate of a verified war hero ... yeah, you would have got long odds against that in Vegas so the jury saw something that swayed them despite having a young widow crying on the stand.

It's a shame if Kyle exaggerated a bit and got caught in a web of distortions, but that takes nothing away from the fact that he put his life on the line for his country many many times.

It's a shame Taya Kyle has been slow to distribute the proceeds from his book to other surviving families but she just lost her husband last year. I'm willing to bet she still spends nights crying.

It's a shame Ventura is an obnoxious prick but being a blowhard doesn't mean he deserves to be libeled as someone who said the SEALs "deserved to lose some".

There were no winners in this case but the case started at the Opie & Anthony show when Kyle named Ventura as the guy who defamed fellow vets and warriors.