Yup, that's a clone of the response I received from them as well.
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You are such a Homo! You just enjoyed drooling over a guys almost exposed ass. This is a gun forum. Lets keep it kleen KevDen!Originally Posted by KevDen2005
You are such a Homo! You just enjoyed drooling over a guys almost exposed ass. This is a gun forum. Lets keep it kleen KevDen!
You are the last person to talk about keeping it clean, don't make me bring up the 8th-12th grades...
Basic home machines (good ones) will run around than $ 900-$1200.
At $5 a pop at Starbucks it will pay for itself in less than a year.
Used commercial ones (we do refurbish them) can run as low as $1500-$2000.
http://www.denverpost.com/business/c...280?source=pop
I sent an email to Al Lewis!!!!Lewis: Starbucks bites the bullet
By Al Lewis
Dow Jones Newswires
Posted: 03/06/2010 01:00:00 AM MST
Gun advocates have just sent a message to Starbucks customers: You can have my iced caramel macchiato when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
Starbucks says it is OK to bring a firearm into its stores in the 43 states where it is legal to openly carry weapons. Just don't get too jittery from the caffeine, and leave the coffee makers out of it.
"We are asking all interested parties to refrain from putting Starbucks or our partners into the middle of this divisive issue," the company said in a statement released Wednesday.
"They're ducking the issue," said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence.
Um, isn't that what you're supposed do when someone walks into your store with a gun?
"The way to get out of the middle," Helmke told me, "would be to show some common sense and some leadership and keep the guns out of their restaurants."
Turns out, advocates of our fundamental right to strut around in public with guns holstered to our belts like John Wayne have been organizing on social networking sites, particularly in the Bay Area of California. They have been getting fellow gun-toters to sometimes show up en masse at coffee shops and restaurants to celebrate their freedom.
Can you imagine sprinkling a little chocolate or vanilla into your venti decaf wet cappuccino with extra-foam and suddenly 50 or 60 people walk by with guns?
"When you see someone openly carry a gun, you're wondering if all the pieces of the puzzle are there," Helmke said. "It raises the risk for everyone Guns can be lost, dropped, stolen and misused. And if you turn them into the equivalent of a protest sign or a bumper sticker, then you've crossed a line."
Helmke is a Republican who served as mayor of Fort Wayne, Ind., for 12 years before getting behind a group named for James Brady, a Reagan assistant who took a bullet with the president. Helmke says he's not anti-gun. He just doesn't want it to make too easy for excitable people to use them.
On Wednesday, his group had a press conference at Seattle's famous Pike Place Market and marched petitions signed by about 28,000 people to Starbucks' corporate headquarters.
Starbucks has been put into this awkward position, largely because of its iconic status as America's meeting place. And it has made a curious choice between the people who carry guns and the people who carry money.
"They are becoming the favorite place of the gun-rights crowd," Helmke said, "that hadn't been there before, and I don't think spend much money.
"One of the people who signed a petition said, 'I spend $3,000 a year at Starbucks, and I'm not going back,'" Helmke told me. "That's a little scary to me: $3,000 a year at Starbucks?"
Gun control? How about some Starbucks control, people?
Helmke is fighting a lost battle against what has long been the status quo, said Mike Stollenwerk, a retired Army Lt. Colonel with a law degree, who runs a website called Opencarry.org.
"Starbucks is taking the mainstream business position in this country," Stollenwerk said. "They do not want to get in a debate over gun-carrying regulations. They are in the business of business."
Stollenwerk, who lives in northern Virginia, wants people to carry guns openly so that it becomes accepted as natural in society. He goes to grocery stores and restaurants, and even Starbucks, several times a week with his gun at his side.
"Why do you feel the need to carry a gun?" I asked.
"Why do you own an insurance policy?" he answered.
"The anti-gun lobby has picked on Starbucks for having the mainstream policy of our country," he continued. "Bottom line: Free enterprise is going to mean that gun owners will get served in our country."
Just as people have the right to bear arms, businesses have the right to ban guns from their premises. Most U.S. restaurants and retailers haven't formally done so because why walk through this rifle range if you don't have to?
Peet's Coffee & Tea Inc. and California Pizza Kitchen are among the exceptions — but I don't think they are likely to suffer sales losses since normal shoppers don't usually arrive armed to the teeth.
Starbucks is now in the unenviable position of having to calm many of it customers.
"Partners are trained to call law enforcement as situations arise," Starbucks said in its statement.
Hey, Starbucks, did you know that even preschoolers are trained to call 911? And who do you think is going to win? The guy who just snatched a gun from your new Second-Amendment-loving customer, or the hippie barista with the cell phone?
Stollenwerk said he doesn't encourage gun-toting rallies at Starbucks, but he has suggested that open-carry advocates thank Starbucks for its position by drinking its coffee.
So when you order the espresso, please be sure to say "dopio" instead of "double-shot."
Al Lewis: 212-416-2617, al.lewis@dowjones.com or tellittoal.com
Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/business/c...#ixzz0hcH5zf7z
If I had the money, I'd open carry to a starbucks that was having a protest, and buy all the anti-gun people a drink from Starbucks, just to make the point that I want to carry a gun while I do other things like drink coffee or whatever, not so I can start a debate every where I go. I'd buy everyone on the whole premises a coffee. I wonder how well that would go over if the gun people started really throwing some money around.
I don't have any $1 bills to burn..
Use the Obama Dollar..
Obama Dollars = my kids future!!
Poor Kids,,, What Future?
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