Massad Ayoob "Lethal Force Aftermath" interview and reloads for self defense in a trial

[earplug]

Wild Bill used reloads

[Great-Kazoo]

This might actually make the legal situation a lot simpler. You could say: "You want to see how it went down and why I feared for my life? Okay, take a look from my perspective!"

NOT AT ALL. The prosecutor could say You were looking for trouble and wanted to film your assault with deadly consequences. I don't try and second guess the Law. Nor do i try and put myself in a position where what i do is called in to question.
Then again, it's what happens after use of deadly Force that matters.

[DAL357]

I've seen MA disparaged on other forums, but can someone please tell me why he's so polarizing? It's fine, of course, to question and challenge "authorities" on any subject; I'm just trying to understand the vitriol he attracts. Should he be dismissed completely, or just on given points concerning guns, ammo, shooting, etc? Thanks.

[O2HeN2]

My suggestion about ammo has always been to determine what ammo your local police or sheriff's department uses and use that. If a prosecutor tries to make your ammo an issue, you can subpoena their buddy the Chief of Police or Sheriff to explain why they chose that round.

O2

[Zundfolge]

Ayoob has a history of conflating theoretical legal threats with real legal threats. So I tend to take what he says with a grain of salt and look at it as more of an interesting discussion of the theoretical and hypothetical instead of taking what he says as gospel advice.

That said, he does have experience in the courtroom in many of the ungodly rare cases where the theoretical legal threats actually materialized. (just keep in mind that he lives in anti-gun New England and he's an expert called in to testify on the outlier, extreme cases thus he sees more of them than most people will and I think this causes him to think the outliers are more common than they are)


In most self defense shootings I doubt that your ammo or gun is going to be looked at other than to catalog the make, model, caliber and serial number (especially for most Coloradoans who live in areas where their DA isn't an anti-gun activist).

Frankly I'd be more concerned about the reliability of hand loads over the potential legal repercussions.

[kidicarus13]

My suggestion about ammo has always been to determine what ammo your local police or sheriff's department uses and use that. If a prosecutor tries to make your ammo an issue, you can subpoena their buddy the Chief of Police or Sheriff to explain why they chose that round.

O2

You can't defer an explanation of your decision to a third party.

[Great-Kazoo]

You can't defer an explanation of your decision to a third party.

With the right attorney, You can do almost anything.

[TFOGGER]

You can't defer an explanation of your decision to a third party.

" I chose the ammunition based on research as to what the law enforcement professionals in my area chose, since they have more resources for determining the reliability and effectiveness of ammunition for defensive purposes than I do. Perhaps we can get them to elaborate on the criteria on which they based their choice. "

[HoneyBadger]

NOT AT ALL. The prosecutor could say You were looking for trouble and wanted to film your assault with deadly consequences. I don't try and second guess the Law. Nor do i try and put myself in a position where what i do is called in to question.
Then again, it's what happens after use of deadly Force that matters.

Ha! very good point. There are a hundred ways to argue ANYTHING you do. Bottom line: try not to ever be involved in a shooting.

[kidicarus13]

" I chose the ammunition based on research as to what the law enforcement professionals in my area chose, since they have more resources for determining the reliability and effectiveness of ammunition for defensive purposes than I do. Perhaps we can get them to elaborate on the criteria on which they based their choice. "

Now that would work