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    Quote Originally Posted by Big E3 View Post
    Yes, but to post here I didn't have to enter my full name and email address and send it directly to the white house. I'm sure they can find me but I don't want to make it too easy for them to make a hit list.
    You running a VPN?

    All they need is your IP address. Your ISP already has your name (or someone in your home), address, phone number (or a few numbers), likely your email, social security number, and credit card info.
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    Well, I had to register for the draft when I was 18, I have worked for a manufacturing subcontractor that required a security clearance, twice. I have sent emails, made phone calls and written letters to my congressional rep's and to the white house, paid taxes to state and federal government, signed multiple petitions to the government, joined the NRA, GOA NAGR, RMGO, passed numerous firearms purchase background checks, flown to the UK many times, flown all over the US, been called up for jury duty many times in state and federal courts, acquired a CCW in CO and FL, I am serving on the Larimer County District Attorney's community relations commission and posted a lot of times here. I am not paranoid about the government having my information, they have had it for almost all of my life. They are probably bored with me by now.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    You running a VPN?

    All they need is your IP address. Your ISP already has your name (or someone in your home), address, phone number (or a few numbers), likely your email, social security number, and credit card info.
    Even VPN may not be secure WebRTC:

    https://www.privateinternetaccess.co...ivate-i#latest

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolvingTactical View Post
    There is now a White House Petition to stop the ban:
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ition/XrvVh1cj
    If everyone signs it and shares the link to the petition we might be able to stop the ban.
    Why do I feel like this is the authoritarian power providing the false perception of caring about what the people actually want??


    Signed it anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big E3 View Post
    Yes, but to post here I didn't have to enter my full name and email address and send it directly to the white house. I'm sure they can find me but I don't want to make it too easy for them to make a hit list.
    You used your real name and email address?

    Check this out: You get to create unlimited "fake" email addresses that forward on to your actual address. You can shut down any of the "fake" accounts at any time. https://www.abine.com/index.html

    Also, with your IP address, they probably already know who you are and where you are. unless you're using VPNs, virtual machines, etc.

    EDIT: Looks like 00tec beat me to it on the IP address point.
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    CONTACT THE BATF:

    ATF email: APAComments@atf.gov

    Fax: (202) 648-9741.

    Mail: Denise Brown, Mailstop 6N-602, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226: ATTN: AP Ammo Comments.

    ***I had to remove the petition link because that's all people were doing is signing the petition which doesn't really help us in this fight***

    SAMPLE LETTER:

    To whom it may concern,

    I am writing to voice my strong opposition to the proposed change to current law that would make it illegal to manufacture, import or sell on the open market M855 / SS109 ammunition.

    The claimed purpose of this change is to “protect the lives and safety of law enforcement officers from the threat posed by ammunition capable of penetrating a protective vest when fired from a handgun”.

    As the Technical Branch well knows, all rifle ammunition of a common caliber such as .223 / 5.56 is capable of penetrating threat level IIA and IIIA body armor regardless of the firearm that is used to fire it. M855 / SS109 is no more of a threat to law enforcement than M193 or Horandy VMAX loads are.

    It’s also worth noting that rifle caliber pistols are rarely used in violent crime, their usage is a statistical zero for all practical purposes, which further begs the question as to why this proposed rule change is being considered.

    Banning the availability of affordable surplus ammunition under the false pretense that it’s in the name of officer safety is a clear violation of our 2nd Amendment rights.

    Thank you for your time and consideration,

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    Thank you mahkcod. Email sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    You used your real name and email address?

    Check this out: You get to create unlimited "fake" email addresses that forward on to your actual address. You can shut down any of the "fake" accounts at any time. https://www.abine.com/index.html

    Also, with your IP address, they probably already know who you are and where you are. unless you're using VPNs, virtual machines, etc.

    EDIT: Looks like 00tec beat me to it on the IP address point.
    If you want to obfuscate your IP try using TOR.

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    This is why I like it hear on this site. No matter what the subject, in short order the topic will move to a post dissection with just a smattering of the original topic thrown in.
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    They have so many ways to track and categorize us that a name on a petition doesn't mean anything at this point.

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