New methods of taxing fuel efficient cars

[jerrymrc]

Being from Oregon myself and going back every year I saw this in the news last summer. The 5-wide Prius formation crowd is up in arms about this. I did the math and the break-even point seems to be 20mpg city. Get less and pay the road tax, get more and pay the gas tax.

There will have to be a way to opt in-out because doing away with the gas tax loses tax on non oregon plates. Of course nothing could go wrong with the state putting a GPS in your car right?

[Graves]

My wife received a lump sum payment from a life insurance policy/trust fund... we could pay cash- but we won't. We'd rather buy a 8-10 year old vehicle to reduce the taxes.
We need a newer vehicle, and I'd be tempted to buy a brand new truck, but when I hear it will be $1500-2000 for the license tax the 1st year, F that. Mission accomplished, Colorado- you've influenced my behavior by taxing it. Apparently you wanted to reduce new vehicle sales.

Part of me would rather buy a wrecked new truck, and put the drivetrain in my '97 Suburban K2500 body/frame... just to say FU to the increased taxes... but I don't have the time.

Then you'll have to fork over the money to retrofit the hardware from the '97 to meet the emmissions requirements of the new chasis.

[SAnd]

I would expect it to have a minimum miles tax. I would see it as set up so you get charged for 5000 miles and add for miles over that. That way if someone has a vehicle that doesn't get driven much gets to pay their "fair" share. Kinda like the Alternative Minimum Income Tax.

[Great-Kazoo]

Then you'll have to fork over the money to retrofit the hardware from the '97 to meet the emmissions requirements of the new chasis.

Not if he keeps the 97 body with VIN. They go by year of vehicle, not year of drive train. As long as the EPA required items are visible & working it's a non-issue

[Aloha_Shooter]

I've taken to looking at classic cars. I could buy a nice 60s-era boat-style convertible with partial restoration for less than a new car and not have to worry about embedded GPS or black box. I'll get crap mileage but they can't monitor the gas itself (so far). Only problem so far is that I really don't want to have RWD as my main ride in CO.

[SamuraiCO]

From Oregon as well. I would be more afraid of next step in the ability to determine speed and create the next level of taxing wasteful use of resources. We all know the level of asshattery of politicians can stoop to when given the opportunity.

[Graves]

Not if he keeps the 97 body with VIN. They go by year of vehicle, not year of drive train. As long as the EPA required items are visible & working it's a non-issue

I actually misread; too damn early.
Swaps: Engine or chasis - they go by whichever is newest. If the engine is not being swapped then yes, it is a non-issue.

[JohnnyDrama]

My wife received a lump sum payment from a life insurance policy/trust fund... we could pay cash- but we won't. We'd rather buy a 8-10 year old vehicle to reduce the taxes.
We need a newer vehicle, and I'd be tempted to buy a brand new truck, but when I hear it will be $1500-2000 for the license tax the 1st year, F that. Mission accomplished, Colorado- you've influenced my behavior by taxing it. Apparently you wanted to reduce new vehicle sales.

Part of me would rather buy a wrecked new truck, and put the drivetrain in my '97 Suburban K2500 body/frame... just to say FU to the increased taxes... but I don't have the time.

And there you have it folks. This is no doubt among one of the leading reasons Detroit is in ruins....

[68Charger]

Then you'll have to fork over the money to retrofit the hardware from the '97 to meet the emmissions requirements of the new chasis.

I actually misread; too damn early.
Swaps: Engine or chasis - they go by whichever is newest. If the engine is not being swapped then yes, it is a non-issue.

What is this Emissions you speak of? Who is "they"?

One of the advantages of living in the Stix... the only thing they inspect here is the VIN if it comes from out of state. After that, they never see the vehicle.... registration renewals thru the mail... I think the state wants to know if I change fuel types (gas to Diesel, or electric conversion), but I don't see how they'd enforce anything out here...

[Zundfolge]

What is this Emissions you speak of? Who is "they"?

One of the advantages of living in the Stix... the only thing they inspect here is the VIN if it comes from out of state. After that, they never see the vehicle.... registration renewals thru the mail... I think the state wants to know if I change fuel types (gas to Diesel, or electric conversion), but I don't see how they'd enforce anything out here...

Colorado Springs isn't exactly "the stix" ... we were taken out of the AIR program several years ago (which was great because I had a 1970 Porsche 914 I could NEVER get to pass emissions ... what with a pair of 40mm Weber IDFs, headers w/Supertrapp and somewhat aggressive cam).