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    We already have CCW reciprocity - it is called the 2nd amendment - each state signed on to the 2nd when they joined the union

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    Wet dream that isn't happening. This country is all about unequal enforcement of law and has been for quite some time.
    You got that right. Selective law enforcement + inequality under the law = No rule of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthabagah View Post
    Yes! A new thread mixing immigration, immunization and education choices? What can go wrong?
    hey how about that latest abortion / right to life bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimal View Post
    Article here.

    Really the logic is sound. If the government puts itself in a position to legislate personal choices based on individual rights, that should extend to other personal choices which are lawful so "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"
    Damn it read my reply about this in the other thread. The logic is totally and completely flawed and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the ruling and basic law.

    This is the problem with people basing their opiniona on short, carefully chosen to support their side, excerpts from the media vs. reading the opinion itself.

    The court goes through a whole bunch of gyrations and acrobatics to say why marriage is a special social construct and as such needs/has to be applied everywhere.

    We have had the 14th ammendment for a long time, and we even had a SCOTUS ruling about its application to restrictive gun laws (hint: we won). But nothing there says that a license must be honored everywhere. Again, see the gymnastics mentioned above
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthabagah View Post
    Yes! A new thread mixing immigration, immunization and education choices? What can go wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    hey how about that latest abortion / right to life bill
    Don't forget to throw in man caused global warming, or cooling, or it's raining too much, or whatever to further divide us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    Don't forget to throw in man caused global warming, or cooling, or it's raining too much, or whatever to further divide us all.
    (Looks out nearest window)...yep, there is weather out there.
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    I'm so glad I'm a heterosexual, white Christian male and can pretty much do whatever I want in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    We have had the 14th ammendment for a long time...

    The constitution is irrelevant ... we no longer live in a Constitutional Republic, we live in an Administrative/Bureaucratic State under a Judicial Oligarchy that uses "constitutional arguments" as window dressing for "rule by fiat".

    For that matter discussion of "the law" is irrelevant as "the law" is whatever whomever has the power to enforce it says it is.

    Things are going to get interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The constitution is irrelevant ... we no longer live in a Constitutional Republic, we live in an Administrative/Bureaucratic State under a Judicial Oligarchy that uses "constitutional arguments" as window dressing for "rule by fiat".

    For that matter discussion of "the law" is irrelevant as "the law" is whatever whomever has the power to enforce it says it is.

    Things are going to get interesting.
    It's already been 'interesting'. Selective enforcement of the law has been going on for a while now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post

    The arming of the populace is not in their best interest.
    This is interesting, for sure. More people own more guns, more ammo, and more armor than ever before.
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