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    Possesses Antidote for "Cool" Gman's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    How would you feel if he was asleep in his bed and was defending himself during a break-in?
    If he were asleep in his bed in Mexico, I could care less how he defended himself.

    We either have borders and immigration laws or we don't. If we don't, then why do any of the other "laws" mean anything?

    Enough with the Executive Branch picking and choosing which laws get enforced. That's pretty much the definition of tyranny.
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    What does Mexico have to do with anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    What does Mexico have to do with anything?
    Pretty sure that would be tacos.

    Our immigration laws and policies are ridiculous and very dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    How would you feel if he was asleep in his bed and was defending himself during a break-in?
    Anybody breaking the law shouldn't sleep well at night. Maybe I could have been clearer and said they're not allowed to arm themselves with a gun. Let them buy a baseball bat if that helps law breakers sleep. If they go through proper channels to be here legally then they should be allowed to get a gun to protect themselves.

    I say stop calling them illegal aliens and start calling it what it is, Breaking and Entering America and third time should be a felony?
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    So you'd charge a four year-old with a felony?
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    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Any person would include citizens and non-citizen alike. (see 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)
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    They shouldn't need a felony charge for a .22LR bullet to deport him- the fact that he's here illegally should be enough to deport him.

    but that's not the way Dem's roll- they want him to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cstone View Post
    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Any person would include citizens and non-citizen alike. (see 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)
    But you're ignoring THIS part... But I still say they can only discuss their rights while we're filling out the paperwork to deport them. I'll be kind- send them back with a copy of the procedures to come into this country LEGALLY.
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    I'm not ignoring it. The first portion of Section 1. describes who citizens are. The amendment discusses citizens and all people. How some people can be identified as citizens; birth or naturalized, and the equal protection of all people under the law.

    Just as with any amendment, courts may interpret, but if We are dissatisfied with the amendment, We can amend the Constitution to reflect what We want it to mean.
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