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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    -not sure it's a crime (yet) to get shot in your own house while innocently minding your own business.
    When I said that I hope the homeowner doesn't face any legal trouble, it was under the premise that some of the flying bullets were his. Since it appears to be blue on blue, and the officers really fvcked it up, I do think they ought to face some very tough questions and the victim ought to get a pretty nice compensation for almost dying and for losing his dog at the hands of [legal] intruders.
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    Owner better get paid. Officer was doing his job but should not have entered based on suspicious call. Not necessarily the officers fault but it damn sure wasn't the dog or homeowners fault. Trespassing is just that whether the door was unlocked or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_L View Post
    If cops only identified themselves upon entry, I doubt I'd hear them in my bedroom, assuming they said it in normal voices and only once. Again, bad situation.
    So a couple of weeks ago DoCo SWAT goes banging down the door to the guy across the streets house - at 0630. I come flying out of bed, throw on some shorts, and go outside. There are two guys in FULL BATTLE RATTLE banging down the neighbors door - with a ram (that they are using poorly). There are no marked cop cars outside and they don't have POLICE or SWAT or SHERIFF on their plate carriers and I don't see any badges. I go back inside to grab something bigger and notice out of the corner of my eye a uniformed cop down the street (probably 600' or so) - so I put two and two together and go inside. Eventually the homeowner get to the door as they bust in -- then the cops go ape shit with them, screaming at them, berating them for making them break down the door. Bad things ensue.



    Okay, so I get curious because I don't ever remember them announcing POLICE or SWAT or SHERIFF the whole time they are banging down the door (2.5 minutes). I pull up my camera recording of the incident, and it has full sound of everything that happened. I listen and confirm they NEVER ANNOUNCED POLICE OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT - at least not until the homeowner was at the door and they were already practically inside. I think back on that incident and heaven forbid what would happen if I was ever in that situation. All I would know is that two heavily armed men were trying to bust into my house. I think that would end poorly for everyone involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Owner better get paid. Officer was doing his job but should not have entered based on suspicious call. Not necessarily the officers fault but it damn sure wasn't the dog or homeowners fault. Trespassing is just that whether the door was unlocked or not.
    The police will claim exigent circumstances. The homeowner will get jail time. Watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    The police will claim exigent circumstances. The homeowner will get jail time. Watch.
    Which I would say is utter BS if it does happen that way. I sure hope not. If that's the case then I am hoping the cops get nailed for unlawful discharge of weapon killing personal property, breaking an entry, attempted murder, and all the other laws that were broken had he not been acting in the line of duty.
    i just think mistakes like this need to get paid out and thankfully no human life was lost but a best friend was needlessly killed because of poor information.
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    Why the fuck do cops think it's OK to just shoot dogs in their own homes? Protecting their homes and families is instinctive to dogs. Strangers break in, of course they're going to bark and growl, it's their duty. It's what they do. The cop doesn't belong there!

    Shooting a dog in its own home is just about the most chickenshit thing a "man" can do. What a fucking hero. What a professional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    The police will claim exigent circumstances. The homeowner will get jail time. Watch.
    Based on what we know so far? I'll take that bet. That's kind of a ridiculous statement to make at this point.

    This sounds like a training issue to me. They made huge mistakes most likely based on poor/lack of training or failing to properly follow procedures. I'm guessing the homeowner comes out just fine on this...obviously other than the gunshot wound and loss of his dog.
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    Ron, it seems pretty clear that the dog jimmied the lock, unlawfully entered the property, then resisted arrest upon being confronted by police. You're just going to have to let this one go. That homeowner was pretty lucky that there was suspicious activity going on down the street, or else the officer might not have ever had the opportunity to foil this K9 criminal.
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    Nobody mentioned breed or color or sexuality of the dog yet.
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