Genius in Evergreen Shoots Bears

[hollohas]

3 shots. Only one was fatal.

[Irving]

Only one shot wasn't rubber though. Article says that he killed one bear instantly, the other had to be put down. Assuming 00 buck with 9 pellets, one bear takes enough to be instantly fatal, second is mortally wounded, and yet more shot didn't hit either bear and continued through a window. Not that any of this matters at this point, but now I'm curious what load was fired, at what range, and the position of the bears. Sounds like piss poor shot placement at first glance.

[hollohas]

Exactly. My thought was buck shot as well.

One or two shots of rubber to scare them off, not enough to be felonies IMO, even if you're not supposed to be firing guns in the neighborhood. But the 3rd "live" round as the news calls it, accidental or not, that illegally killed two bears and hit a neighbor's house? That's as negligent as it gets. Firing the gun was illegal. Killing the bears was illegal. But it's the hitting the neighbor's house that really puts it over the edge for me. That's just downright dangerous. This guy broke every gun safety rule in the book and broke a whole shit ton of actual laws in the process. Bad judgement perhaps, but sure sounds like plain old stupidity to me. IMO, the felony charge is more than valid. But I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a deal for lesser charge.

[.455_Hunter]

One or two shots of rubber to scare them off, not enough to be felonies IMO, even if you're not supposed to be firing guns in the neighborhood.

Unless he lives within Evergreen city limits, discharging firearms is not automatically a problem in Jeffco, even if its in a subdivision. However, a .2 acre lot is a big difference from a 10 acre lot.

I am curious if the P&W knew his exact living conditions when providing him the rubber buckshot.

[Bailey Guns]

Fuck him. He didn't secure his trash. Bears do what bears do when you don't secure your trash. Live with it and put your trash away next time. Then he didn't keep his dog under control. Then he fired his gun not knowing what type of ammo it was loaded with and with no regard for rules 3 and 4. This guy is too stupid to own a gun and he's just the type of moron that provides continuous "ammunition" for those that want to further restrict gun rights. My sympathy lies with the bears...not this douche.

[Bailey Guns]

Evergreen is unincorporated...there are no city limits.

[Irving]

I'm under the impression from the way the article is written that he knew that round three was "live," and that he decided to shoot for fear of the dog being injured. Which kind of begs the question of if you think your dog might get hurt, is adding live ammo the right decision? I feel I'm already way too far down Arm Chair Quarterback Rd though at this point.

[sniper7]

Yeah I'm right there with you Irving, it will play out and have no impact on me personally so it is what it is.

[hollohas]

Which kind of begs the question of if you think your dog might get hurt, is adding live ammo the right decision?

Right decision or not, the law says even if your dog is getting hurt, it's still illegal. City limits, not city limits, whatever, you cannot shoot bears for perceived or actual threat to pets. Everything else aside, the simple act of killing the bears WAS illegal.

See statue 33-3-106


https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Wi...nZqilKBb8TyeZQ

[BushMasterBoy]

If I saw a bear eating a legislator, I would make sure my dog left it alone...


https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Wi...ceWildlife.pdf