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    I don't think what he said is going to hurt him at all...at least not among anyone who isn't a committed leftist anyway.

    When are people going to realize that conservatism wins and those so-called conservatives who are afraid to promote conservative values lose?

    I hear so many people bitch that candidate so-n-so isn't conservative enough. Then they bitch when the same candidate talks like a conservative. It's maddening.
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    I actually watched a bit of that interview this morning. Though I thought Dr Carson could have structured his abortion/Roe v Wade answers a little differently (to avoid giving so much ammo to both sides), I appreciate that he is honest about not compromising his beliefs.
    I also wanted to chuck the tv out the window when the comparison was made between Surface to Air Missiles and personal weapons (by the interviewer) during the obviously "Gotcha" tinged 2A portion.

    Is he unelectable now? Who's to say.

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    Wuuut??? There is a difference between surface to air missiles and personal firearms? When did THAT happen? That is soooo not what MSNBC/CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/NYT/Boston Globe/NPR etc. etc. etc. said!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    See markco's reply I guess w/out the SARCASM icon folks get lost.
    I totally get the sarcasm in the thread heading, "Ben carson is now OUT of the Running for president"

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    I don't see any sarcasm in the remark ". he just withdrew from the race." when posted with a link.

    Ben Carson's statements, whether gaffs or not, are no more polarizing than Trump's. At least he's an honest candidate. For Carson, it's not a matter of being up against the D's at THIS POINT, it's his ability to beat the other R's. When we get down to the D vs R vote, I don't see his beliefs making that big a difference in the vote tally. It's all about winning the independent vote, and my hope and belief is that those I's are smart enough to know he can't change Roe v Wade and the country is worse off with more D leadership.
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    The idea that only pro abortion liberals can get elected is stupid. If being a middle of the road moderate who would bend with the fickle winds of polls and the manufactured public opinion espoused by our Democrat run MSM would help Republicans get elected we'd all be posting here about the stupid crap President McCain or President Romney did today.

    People are tired of politicians that don't stand for something. Abortion has become damn near a 50-50 issue in this country so coming out against abortion (and in particular the unconstitutional way laws banning it were over ruled by a bunch of oligarchs in black robes) is not going to cost him the election ... in fact standing strongly for something is going to garner him more support.

    Since Roe V Wade EVERY Republican President has been pro-life and publicly spoken out against Roe V Wade.


    So what are all the glowing and wonderful things the MSM has been or would have been saying about Carson? How can they hate him more than they already do? He's a black conservative ... he is a thing to be scorned and destroyed (even if he came out for free government paid for abortions to the 30th trimester).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I don't think what he said is going to hurt him at all...at least not among anyone who isn't a committed leftist anyway.

    When are people going to realize that conservatism wins and those so-called conservatives who are afraid to promote conservative values lose?

    I hear so many people bitch that candidate so-n-so isn't conservative enough. Then they bitch when the same candidate talks like a conservative. It's maddening.
    This. Tons of people don't agree with abortion and will be happy to finally have a candidate willing to voice their shared opinion. Thank goodness he's not a milk toast Romney/McCain who conservatives are supposed to accept as the lesser of two evils- who ends up leaving un-inspired voters at home.

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    The liberal media and uber-liberal bloggers were going to skewer him for something no matter what. Giving honest answers backed by his medical training and solid reasoning can only help him with people who think but are undecided. My Democrat godmother isn't going to support a Republican candidate no matter what s/he says because my godmother -- like many people -- is going to just make up reasons to back up her "feelings" (which in this case are directed by the lies and propaganda put out by the DNC).
    What will help Carson is that he says what he does in a low key, non-threatening manner and forces some of those undecideds to really think instead of just react emotionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    The liberal media and uber-liberal bloggers were going to skewer him for something no matter what. Giving honest answers backed by his medical training and solid reasoning can only help him with people who think but are undecided. My Democrat godmother isn't going to support a Republican candidate no matter what s/he says because my godmother -- like many people -- is going to just make up reasons to back up her "feelings" (which in this case are directed by the lies and propaganda put out by the DNC).
    What will help Carson is that he says what he does in a low key, non-threatening manner and forces some of those undecideds to really think instead of just react emotionally.
    Unfortunately the Emotional / Professional voter usually turns out en-mass . OR they're being repressed by the uber rich white man who wants everyone that votes to provide ID
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    i am at least glad that a couple of the Rep candidates are taking on progressives and being unapologetic about it.
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