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    Quote Originally Posted by MOLON LABE View Post
    People don't tend to grab at gunshot wounds when shot. Stupid people, playing stupid games, win stupid prizes.
    Bullshit. Excluding my own first hand(years and years) war time xperience. What about accounts of soldiers tearing apart there smocks to see if they received a gut shot. Most when observing a gut shot fought savagely as they knew death was eminent. Lots of civil war and revolutionary war books talk of this. Come to think of it mountain man times as well.

    Then there is this. I have been fucking shot. After I eliminated the threat I bet you can guess where my hands where. Up my nose or jerking off aren't the right answers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbyfairbanks View Post
    Bullshit. Excluding my own first hand(years and years) war time xperience. What about accounts of soldiers tearing apart there smocks to see if they received a gut shot. Most when observing a gut shot fought savagely as they knew death was eminent. Lots of civil war and revolutionary war books talk of this. Come to think of it mountain man times as well.

    Then there is this. I have been fucking shot. After I eliminated the threat I bet you can guess where my hands where. Up my nose or jerking off aren't the right answers
    Very well then, glad your still with us. My experiences don't jive with yours, but then again I've never been shot before. Friends of mine that were didn't grab at their wounds, but they weren't you, and you weren't them. I would suspect different people react differently to being shot, where your shot at also might have something to do with it to.
    Also since your statement was that you eliminated a threat, THEN grabbed at your wound my thesis of people don't grab at their wounds when shot should have read; people don't IMMEDIATELY grab at thier wounds. Not poking at you. It amazes me how 20 people can watch a video and you can have 40 different viewpoints on what happened. Glad I'm not a cop or a detective, eyewitness reports would drive me up the freaking wall.

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    Exclusive interview with Shawna Cox about the shooting.

    Link to audio: http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/com.../hr3013116.mp3

    Comments/notes from Dave Hodges' interview:
    On Sunday evening, January 31, 2016, I interviewed Shawna Cox on The Common Sense Show. Her conversation with me was filled with exuberance, the same kind of exuberance that one would experience from a traumatic “fight or flight” experience.
    After being shot at over 100 times, and lucky to be alive, Shawna was taken into custody. Shawna addresses the question posed and listed above, as she revealed to my audience some very detailed information which is also confirmed from the public accounts of 18 year old Victoria Sharp.
    This may be Shawna Cox’s final interview to the media. During the course of the 30 minute interview, she told me she fully expected to be the victim of a gag order issued by a federal judge when she appears in court on Monday to face federal charges of impeding federal officers.
    Shawna Cox, working through the health reporter of The Common Sense Show, Katy Whelan, reached out to me on Saturday evening. The interview, itself, was primarily about the harrowing events on January 26th in which LaVoy Finicum was executed by the FBI.
    The Purpose of the Trip

    Ammon Bundy and his companions were on their way to meet with the Sheriff from nearby John Day and commingle with local ranchers who stood in support of their cause. Music and festivities were also the order of the day. This is why 18-year-old singer, Victoria Sharp, was accompanying the party as they tried to make their way to John Day.
    First Encounter

    As the two cars, comprising the caravan, were making their way to John Day. they were pulled over at the first roadblock. At first, neither side did anything in what could be described as a silent stand-off. The occupants of the vehicles were not given any instructions (e.g. to exit the vehicle, etc.). Finally, in an attempt to show peaceful intent, Ryan Payne put both hands out of the truck through the open window, to show he was not armed, and he was promptly shot at with the bullet striking metal of the truck between the window and the mirror.
    DAVE HODGES QUESTION: DID FEDERAL AUTHORITIES EVER GIVE THE OCCUPANTS OF THE TRUCKS A CHANCE TO SURRENDER AT THE FIRST ROADBLOCK? DID THEY ISSUE INSTRUCTIONS THROUGH THEIR PA?
    SHAWNA COX ANSWER: NO! THEY JUST OPENED FIRE ON US AS WE SAT THERE. THEY NEVER GAVE US THE CHANCE TO SURRENDER.
    A Fateful Decision

    At that point, the driver of the first vehicle, Lavoy Finicum made a fateful decision to escape the gunfire and reach the protection of the Sheriff waiting for them at John Day.
    As Finicum sped away, federal authorities were in pursuit. Very quickly, they came upon a second roadblock. Cox stated that it was at that point that Payne begged Finicum to pull over and he kept saying that we have to reach the Sheriff.
    The Second Roadblock

    Upon reaching the second roadblock, Finicum attempted to swerve to the side of the road and the truck was stuck in a snowbank.
    According to Cox, Finicum exited the vehicle with his hands up and said:
    “We have women in the car don’t shoot!:
    According to Cox, and her account is backed up by Victoria Sharp, Finicum had his hands in the air as he faced the FBI agents who were stationed in the trees and said:
    “We are going to the Sheriff….well, just go ahead and shoot me.” This was all said with his hands in the air. Finicum (was) immediately shot upon exiting the car, several times, and was, again, shot at repeatedly while he lie in the snow dying.
    Attempted Second Degree Murder of the Occupants in the Truck

    Immediately, the occupants had red lasers on their bodies as the scurried for cover in the truck. Immediately after Finicum was killed, the truck came under fire. No orders were issued to the occupants, and as it was at the first roadblock, firing bullets at the occupants of the truck was the first order of the day.
    Cox believes that the vehicle was struck at least one hundred times. Both women were hysterically screaming to “please stop shooting” as the two women were begging for their lives.
    This entire event, complete with two roadblocks, unprovoked gunfire and FBI agents in the trees could only be described as an “old west ambush”.
    With no movement in the truck, and after firing over 100 rounds, the FBI finally issued its first order to surrender. They ordered the male occupants out of the vehicle, followed by the females.
    The Arrests

    I have had multiple law enforcement personnel write to me and express shock and horror that the FBI never attempted to check on the status of Finicum.
    Victoria Sharp was not charged and arrested and was dumped at a Safeway parking lot with no money and only the clothes on her back. Shawna Cox was charged with impeding federal officers (I am still scratching my head on this one trying to make sense of the charge.
    As a footnote, and as a precondition of her release, Shawna Cox was ordered to have all guns at her Utah home removed. After the guns were removed, her son-in-law, sitting in close proximity to the guns was suddenly and mysteriously caught in a fire in which all the guns and ammunition went up in smoke. Shawna’s son-in-law was killed in the event.
    Conclusion

    Please consider the fact that Victoria Sharp is an 18 year old kid who was not even part of the dispute. She was there to musically perform in John Day and the FBI attempted to murder this girl without so much as an opportunity to surrender peacefully.
    What did these seven occupants do to warrant a “shoot first order”? They did nothing, but they were never given the opportunity to surrender before being fired upon, on two different occasions. And as Shawna Cox put it “Lavoy was murdered in cold blood by the FBI, he had his hands in the air until he was shot”.
    Shawna added, as a footnote, that when the last man was taken into custody, they were asked if there were any others left in the truck. They responded that they were the last. The FBI promptly proceeded to fire over 100 more rounds into the vehicle after the vehicle was vacated.
    Is this the kind of country that you want to live in? Steve Quayle was correct when he said on my show, regarding his new book, that the Nazi’s won the war and it can be accurately stated that the Lavoy Finicum was murdered by the American version of the Gestapo.
    On Sunday evening, January 31, 2016, I interviewed Shawna Cox on The Common Sense Show. Her conversation with me was filled with exuberance, the same kind of exuberance that one would experience from a traumatic “fight or flight” experience.
    After being shot at over 100 times, and lucky to be alive, Shawna was taken into custody. Shawna addresses the question posed and listed above, as she revealed to my audience some very detailed information which is also confirmed from the public accounts of 18 year old Victoria Sharp.
    This may be Shawna Cox’s final interview to the media. During the course of the 30 minute interview, she told me she fully expected to be the victim of a gag order issued by a federal judge when she appears in court on Monday to face federal charges of impeding federal officers.
    Shawna Cox, working through the health reporter of The Common Sense Show, Katy Whelan, reached out to me on Saturday evening. The interview, itself, was primarily about the harrowing events on January 26th in which LaVoy Finicum was executed by the FBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    Exclusive interview with Shawna Cox about the shooting.

    Link to audio: http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/com.../hr3013116.mp3

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    A little dramatic, don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    Exclusive interview with Shawna Cox about the shooting.

    Link to audio: http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/com.../hr3013116.mp3

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    That explains why he was frantically dancing around in the snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    Exclusive interview with Shawna Cox about the shooting.

    Link to audio: http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/com.../hr3013116.mp3

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    Except I watched the FBI video with my own eyes and one person did exit the white truck and surrender before they sped off. They were not under fire. Ammon Bundy and Mark McConnell both were arrested peacefully as well.

    I also believe she is mixing up the sound of flashbangs (like a string of firecrackers) with additional gun shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COShooter View Post
    Except I watched the FBI video with my own eyes and one person did exit the white truck and surrender before they sped off. They were not under fire. Ammon Bundy and Mark McConnell both were arrested peacefully as well.

    I also believe she is mixing up the sound of flashbangs (like a string of firecrackers) with additional gun shots.
    Sure have a lot of confidence in your assessment of a video with no sound vs an eyewitness. Not saying she's 100% correct.

    You should also be able to see, with your own eyes, shots hitting the truck above the front passenger door toward the end of the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Sure have a lot of confidence in your assessment of a video with no sound vs an eyewitness. Not saying she's 100% correct.

    You should also be able to see, with your own eyes, shots hitting the truck above the front passenger door toward the end of the video.
    The police and FBI used pepperballs and flashbangs on the occupants of the vehicles, not bullets. That's what is seen in the video.

    She says that they were not given any chance to surrender, but that contradicts other eyewitness testimony that a man got out of Finicum's truck and surrendered to the FBI before Finicum drove off. That is substantiated by video evidence. There are no gunshots on the truck visible until he approaches the roadblock. It should be obvious with his truck topper if they were shooting at the truck but alas there was no damage until he approaches the roadblock. That's why I am confident.

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    Your right, from that video I can see no bullet holes in the truck. But, from that video I'm not sure how you can say there are none. Maybe you've seen a different one or have much better resolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jslo View Post
    Your right, from that video I can see no bullet holes in the truck. But, from that video I'm not sure how you can say there are none. Maybe you've seen a different one or have much better resolution.
    I watched it again too. The windshield is obvious, but not the rest of it. I think I can see issues in the other glass but the resolution is too poor. I can see them setting off a bunch of other flash rounds. Sound would tell the story here, but the video the passengers took will never see the light of day. My opinion of the guy changed after watching it again; they killed him and left him to die in the snow.
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