Trump carries

[hollohas]

I was hoping the right could get thier shit together this time around. Looks like that's never going to happen. We're going to be stuck with different levels of statist candidates from here on out I guess.

[roberth]

I was hoping the right could get thier shit together this time around. Looks like that's never going to happen. We're going to be stuck with different levels of statist candidates from here on out I guess.

The time to kill off the communist movement was in the late 40s, 50s, and 60s. Americans were tired of fighting, the communists knew this and took advantage of the situation.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, the Americans in the late 40s, 50s, and 60s dropped the ball.

Been too late for a looooong time.

[Bmac]

Will any of you be at Cook Park Rec tomorrow to caucus?

[davsel]

Good article explaining how the primaries will not matter. In the end, the GOPe will nominate whomever they wish.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...od-from-trump/

Then there is rule 40-B.Please note that Rule 40 as it is currently written expires on the day before the convention when the Rules Committee meets to make up the new Rules of the Convention and for the Republican Party for the next 4 years. Rule 40-B currently requires a nominee to have “the “majority of the permanently seated delegates from at least 8 states.” Romney lawyer Ben Ginsberg was able to change Rule 40 from “plurality of the delegates from at least 5 states” to the current rule. The potential for skullduggery is clear. Even if Trump runs the tables in the primaries winning a plurality in virtually every state the rule can be tailored by a controlled Rules Committee to prevent a Trump nomination.

Rule 40-B used to require a majority in six states but when Congressman Ron Paul met that goal it was quickly changed to eight states. Under control of the insiders the number of states required can be amended to any number to block Trump.

Also, the goal of the extended nomination process will be to make it so either no one gets to eight states (or what ever number the establishment changes it to) Then, under the guise of letting “the voters be heard”, the Rules committee will make a more lax Rule 40. After all, Cruz and Rubio and Romney “deserve to be nominated,” they will argue. Romney will enter the late primaries because he is concerned that Rule 40 B will be changed to allow only those who won some delegates from voters in the states to be considered and because he might stand a better chance of chiseling delegates from Trump in late “’winner take all” primaries than the hapless Rubio.

Surely the party pros know that a nomination wrenched from the hands of Donald Trump would be worthless but they don’t care. The ruling elite that has dominated the party would rather have globalist Hillary Clinton than the uncontrollable nationalist Donald Trump. The idea of a president not beholden to the ruling elite is more than they can stand.

[cstone]

Which leads us back to - Given the choice to vote for the GOP nominee or the DNC nominee, who will you vote for?

In the general election, the DNC nominee can usually count on about 40% of the votes cast. The fairness or correctness of this can be argued for decades, but statistically it has been a pretty stable assumption. The GOP nominee can normally count on about 30 to 35% of the votes cast. If a third party candidate runs, the DNC candidate wins. If GOP voters do not turn out and vote, the DNC candidate wins. If the GOP candidate does not convince more than 10% of the undecided voters to vote GOP, the DNC candidate wins.

I believe Bush the Younger won in 2000 because of Clinton scandal fatigue, and he barely won at that against Al Gore and his electric personality.

The DNC strategists know the numbers and they know what they can count upon in November. If the GOP puts up a weak candidate or a candidate that is not able to draw votes from the undecided or the DNC, then the default choice in November will be the DNC candidate.

While a great deal of money is being spent and much time is being devoted to the current political campaign, the numbers underlying the process do not change very much. Regardless of how the GOP chooses or who the GOP chooses to nominate, the GOP has a pretty steep haul to overcome the built in advantage that the DNC has going into this election.

So I ask again, Who will you vote for come November? The GOP or the DNC? Any other choice is a vote for the DNC, and the DNC nomination process has essentially been concluded through their super-delegate process.

Just my opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it.

God Bless the Republic.

Be safe.

[Jamnanc]

The real problem with trump is that he is an unpredictable blowhard douche bag. Most of us will vote for him if he is the R candidate. That is my uninformed opinion and does not reflect the opinions of other rednecks.

[Great-Kazoo]

There will be as many voting for T from the D party as voting for HRC from the R party.

I'll vote for a fucking toilet seat over ANY D, ANYTIME.

This will be the demise of the RNC as most know it. Possibly the D's, depending how butt hurt the sillyennials are, over HRC's nomination fix.

[davsel]

My assessment after little to no meaningful research of any kind:
If the RNC nominates Trump, he will win in a landslide against any D based simply on the massive turnout he has proven to attract.
If the RNC nominate anyone else, the Ds will win simply based on a pissed off mass of Rs who either vote third party or don't vote at all.
This Presidential election is entirely up to the RNC to either surely win, or surely lose.
Unfortunately, either way, the RNC loses the power they have either way. And that is their dilemma.
The only way the RNC keeps hold of their power is to nominate someone other than Trump, lose the election, and start fund-raising and continue schmoozing for the next one. I'm afraid this will be the inevitable outcome - greedy power-hungry pricks that they are.

[hollohas]

SNIP

- greedy power-hungry pricks that they are.

That discribes not only the RNC, but also defines the entire character of the supposed anti-establishment guy the so-called angry R's have picked to stick it to the man.

This is what is so troubling. These huge crowds of anrgy R's and independents that Trump has generated are supporting a man who is 100%, no question about it, EXACTLY like the people they are angry at. TO A T.

They say they are angry and are voting with pure emotion and zero sense. They are angry so they support a man who says he's angry too, no matter what his history, character or true intentions may be. That's the very same kind of behavior that got us Obama.

All the while, they are ignoring Cruz who is just as angry and regularly says as much but who can also back the retoric up with his anti big government and pro constitution history, fighting against the DC bullshit.

I have a different prediction that mirrors an earlier link I posted but goes a bit further. The RNC is going to support Trump. And if/when he wins and sucks just as bad as Obama, they will say "we told you so" and ask the R's to come back to the party. But at that point, the left will be so enraged that the DNC screwed them by going with Hillary, they will revolt against the DNC and band together behind someone as bad or worse than Bern. The angry R's will again stay home at the next election, because they got dupped by Trump (and that's what they do normally anyway) and this country will take a harder swing left than we've ever seen.

[TFOGGER]

And the real, important questions for the average American: Who will the Bachelor give his roses to, and what do the Kardashians think about his choices?

We're SOOOOOOOO screwed...