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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    I dont know about abortion, but the other two are accurate. He's on record stating both that he agreed with the AWB and that he would fix bama care with some sort of government provided program.
    The problem with Trump supporters is that they fail time and time again to research the history of their candidate.

    In his 2000 book “The America We Deserve” Trump seemed to take a different stance.
    "I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun," he said. "With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within seventy-two hours if a potential gun owner has a record.”
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump...ry?id=33867505

    No one can say with any certainty which direction Trump will go on health/insurance.

    Scott Pelley: Universal health care?
    Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.
    Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of how?
    Donald Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably--
    Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
    Donald Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-t...-scott-pelley/

    The most unpopular part of Obamacare now has a champion in the Republican presidential field. Via the Right Scoop, Donald Trump was asked on Thursday night by CNN's Anderson Cooper, "If…there's no mandate for everybody to have insurance, what's to—why would an insurance company not have a preexisting—insure somebody with a preexisting condition?" Trump replied, "Well, I like the mandate. Okay, so here's where I'm a little bit different. I don't want people dying on the streets. And I say this all the time."
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-...rticle/2001172

    Trump’s new health reform plan is a marked departure from what he has supported in the past. Within the last year, he’s been an advocate of government-run single-payer healthcare, a champion of Obamacare’s individual mandate, and now apparently a supporter of market-based reform.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypip.../#15f9de12e47f

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Do you seriously buy that or are you just being facetious? When a person has a decades long history of one opinion on a subject and then changes his opinion at the very same time he's trying to gain the support of a certain demographic, it's pretty clear those new opinions are complete and total BS.

    The healthcare thing isn't even old. It was only a couple months ago that he publicly said he'd replace bama care with another government program.

    A man's past actions and words define his character, not some "policy position" posted on a website.
    If you are suggesting a man maintains the same political ideas and positions throughout his entire life, I must disagree.
    I know that I have certainly not.

    At this point, Trump is the Republican nominee, and continuing to bash him on a public forum is confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Not sure who you're writing about. None of what you mention is factually accurate in regards to Trump. Where did you get these rumor's from?
    Mmmm ... everything he posted is based on documented positions from Trump (unlike most of the allegations laid against Cruz, Rubio, Carson, etc.). Trump may have had a Road to Damascus conversion but he has indeed supported Obamacare, abortion on demand, and gun control -- and NOW he's willing to consider raising the minimum wage (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/dona.../04/id/727284/). I'll support him to avoid Hillary or Bernie but he is NOT conservative.

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    The idea that Trump is a sleeper doesn't make sense because the dirty money of the entire Democratic Party AND the entire GOP put together couldn't touch the amount of money to be made throughout the entire world with the exclusive access of the POTUS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    If you are suggesting a man maintains the same political ideas and positions throughout his entire life, I must disagree.
    I know that I have certainly not.

    At this point, Trump is the Republican nominee, and continuing to bash him on a public forum is confusing.
    Being truthful about a candidate is not bashing, it's discourse. I have said many times Trump is better than Hillary. Identifying his flaws is not going to change that nor alter the course of the election. I will vote for him but I won't ignore the head-in-the-sand BS spouted by folks who idolize the guy. My interest is not just in this election, but engaging people in debate regarding the principles, ideology and ideals that IMO are ruining this country and likewise which can fix it.

    For the next 4 years, Trump is better than HRC and that's what matter now. However, I'm invested in much more than 4 years and I will never stop being vocal when the opportunity develops to point out ignoranace on the issues of small government and personal liberty.

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    Can't this be blended in with the Trump thread in L&P.

    WE ALL KNOW Cruz is out.
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    As Martinjmpr stated previously, the Dems know how elections work.
    It is unfortunate that the Republicans refuse to learn.

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    The Republicans that say they will vote for HRC are the problem. As of yet, no one here has said that. Most here will get on the boat and vote to beat her. Discussing flaws and ideals is never a bad thing.

    Remeber, the lefties are split too. And yet, no one is out there saying, "oh man, the liberals better get together and fall in line. It's unfortunate they all can't just agree." Even though they are split, we don't question their cohesiveness.

    I am on board. I may point out the dumb shit my team does, but I will always try to win.

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    I will try to wait until after the election before publicly airing my many disagreements with the Republican candidate.
    One step at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    I will try to wait until after the election before publicly airing my many disagreements with the Republican candidate.
    One step at a time.
    Oh that makes perfect sense! Wait until the person has unquestionable authority before criticizing them. What a genius plan.
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