Fact. I believe the collective judges have more power than anyone in this country by far.Originally Posted by speedysst
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Fact. I believe the collective judges have more power than anyone in this country by far.
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Taken out of context/timing I thought it was an excellent speech. Cruz didn't just lay out Conservative beliefs/values but demonstrated how they can solve the problems the Left has created. I still think Cruz is a good guy.
For those who expected an endorsement, I think there is too much bad blood and that's actually okay. I think contention is good (contrary to popular belief) because we get better leadership. These conventions lately (Dem more than GOP) have just been a rubber stamp. Historically, they were very rowdy events.
What I think the rift highlights is that Trump really is a third party under the banner of the GOP (which is what many want). If he wins it's going to be interesting. He'll have to survive attacks from the Left and his own party.
ETA: And I don't think we're voting ourselves out of this mess (too late), so I might be viewing this differently.
Last edited by Skip; 07-21-2016 at 11:47.
IMO, the Republic is dead and a mask wearing oligarchy rules in its place. Think about it... no checks and balances, no rule of law, and the constitution is, at this point, a thing no one in "power" seems to actually care about.
No doubt
The speech, in and of itself even in context doesn't really bother me. I think a lot of the reaction to it has been over-reaction (especially by the Cruz haters) ... but then today Cruz doubles down on it and comes off as a spiteful and small man (which if Trump were in his shoes he'd do the same thing ... I still don't like Trump, but I'll vote for him). Which is a shame because while I still think Cruz is a great mind I no longer really think of him as a "good guy".
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Well said
Does anyone actually base their vote on endorsements from other politicians? I hope not...
Does anyone actually think that a non-endorsement from Cruz equals fewer votes for Trump?
Cruz says he told Trump he wasn't going to endorse him. And Trump still let him speak. If that's true, this was all planned. Based on the reactions of previous Cruz supporters here and Cruz supporters on the floor of the convention, it appears that Cruz's non endorsement actually solidified support for Trump.
He very likely just helped Trump. And everyone is in a huff. Weird.
Yeah it appeared as this may be. Trump was pretty hostile and petty during the debates.
Read this and makes sense;
Ted Cruz defiant after RNC speech: ‘I’m not supporting people who attack my wife’
I agree with Cruz, man stood his by his convictions. Why I like him, rather have him than Trump, but that is not reality now.
I like this quote from him; "And to those listening, please, don't stay home in November," Cruz said. "Stand and speak, and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution."
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I was a strong Cruz supporter. I voted for him in the primary. I'd rather he was nominated and this whole thing never happened. Having said that, what bothers me most, not only with him but many others in the GOP, is the fact they're completely discounting the will of the voters.
Trump comes off as a loud-mouthed bully, heavy-handed, etc. I get that. What I also get is he was the OVERWHELMING choice of the people. So, in my opinion, Cruz and the rest of the GOP need to STFU, support the candidate the people chose, and together get on with the process of making sure HRC doesn't get elected. If the party doesn't like it that Trump was nominated, too bad. Learn from your mistakes, correct them, and figure out how to win with the people next time.
But for now stop whining and acting like a bunch of spoiled children.
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