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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I was a strong Cruz supporter. I voted for him in the primary. I'd rather he was nominated and this whole thing never happened. Having said that, what bothers me most, not only with him but many others in the GOP, is the fact they're completely discounting the will of the voters.

    Trump comes off as a loud-mouthed bully, heavy-handed, etc. I get that. What I also get is he was the OVERWHELMING choice of the people. So, in my opinion, Cruz and the rest of the GOP need to STFU, support the candidate the people chose, and together get on with the process of making sure HRC doesn't get elected. If the party doesn't like it that Trump was nominated, too bad. Learn from your mistakes, correct them, and figure out how to win with the people next time.

    But for now stop whining and acting like a bunch of spoiled children.



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    Yup, that speech is valid and accurate. Most of us have been pleading with others NOT to stay home just because Trump isn't perfect. Urging folks to get out and vote is sound advice.

    I'll vote my convictions and those are to do everything possible to never let liberal America destroying trash win.

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    I'll tell ya who's playing it smart thru this convention... Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich. If Trump is elected look for AG Giuliani and maybe SoS Gingrich. Early predictions...
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    Cruz was still the better candidate. He should have ended his speech with what Gingrich said to "interpret" his words about upholding the Constitution -- there are only 2 viable candidates for the office and of those 2, Trump is the more likely to uphold the Constitution. The idiots who keep pushing Gary Johnson are the ones who are going to give this election to Hillary and they are the ones we will have to thank for the turd sandwich of her administration AND her Supreme Court picks if she gets it.

    If you can't see the difference between Hillary and anyone else (no matter how liberal) in the GOP right now, you need to lay off the shrooms. It's not light you're seeing.

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    You know, people make a lot out of "Hillary's Supreme Court picks."

    Do remember, the Senate has to approve them.

    That's why I don't necessarily care at this point which of the two fools gets in, but I'm focused on the downballot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    Do remember, the Senate has to approve them.
    And you trust Mitch McConnell to stonewall for 4-8 years?
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Mitch McConnell will sign off on any communist Hillary chooses.

    Isn't Gary Johnson an open borders guy and didn't he pick a communist for a running mate?
    Last edited by roberth; 07-21-2016 at 17:04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I'll tell ya who's playing it smart thru this convention... Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich. If Trump is elected look for AG Giuliani and maybe SoS Gingrich. Early predictions...
    I think Christie is more likely to get the nod for AG. Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The speech, in and of itself even in context doesn't really bother me. I think a lot of the reaction to it has been over-reaction (especially by the Cruz haters) ... but then today Cruz doubles down on it and comes off as a spiteful and small man (which if Trump were in his shoes he'd do the same thing ... I still don't like Trump, but I'll vote for him). Which is a shame because while I still think Cruz is a great mind I no longer really think of him as a "good guy".
    It's politics and it can get nasty even between good people. Even outside of politics I see people fight over how to solve a problem all the time. Both of those people care about solving the problem (their hearts are in the right place) they just can't see eye-to-eye.

    If lyin' Ted had won, I wonder if Trump would endorse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    If lyin' Ted had won, I wonder if Trump would endorse?
    God no ... in fact I guarantee that had Trump lost fair and square to anybody, he'd still have run independent/third party.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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