Close
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12
  1. #1
    Dances with Foxes
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    CO
    Posts
    731

    Default Seems like only yesterday...

    Vietnam celebrates 35th anniversary of war's end
    SOURCE: AP, 4/30/10

    While I was just a youngster, I remember "the end" vividly, as if it were only yesterday. TV images capturing the fall of Saigon, the last chopper rescues carrying refugees and Americans out of harms way...

    I remember the hollowness I felt, even as a child, having come from a multi-generational military family (to include immediate family - the war was "very real" for us) I had a hard time understanding and accepting what felt like "a loss" in my house, that "stink" lingered for a long-time, I still smell it occasionally to this day.

    Here's to the soldiers and hero's of that time, and to my dad; "thank you!"

  2. #2
    Angels rejoice when BigBears trumpet blows
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    CoS
    Posts
    5,249

    Default

    My dad had a friend (rest his soul) who was a tunnel rat in 'Nam. Some of the stories he would tell would chill you to the bone. He used to always keep the windows open for the breeze because he could swear that he "could still smell the burning flesh of those (racial slur)... we needed more napalm."

    True American heroes RIP.

  3. #3
    Machine Gunner Hoosier's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Stone City
    Posts
    1,518

    Default

    I wasn't alive then. To someone who was, why did we lose it? Was it that we didn't commit sufficient forces and hamstrung the ones we did commit preventing them from doing things like bombing the enemy capital?

    My aunt and uncle met in Vietnam -- the only other gun owners in my family.

    H.

  4. #4
    Angels rejoice when BigBears trumpet blows
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    CoS
    Posts
    5,249

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I wasn't alive then. To someone who was, why did we lose it? Was it that we didn't commit sufficient forces and hamstrung the ones we did commit preventing them from doing things like bombing the enemy capital?

    My aunt and uncle met in Vietnam -- the only other gun owners in my family.

    H.
    There's a whole war to open up with those questions. Some claim we won, others that we lost.

    Cheesy site with lots of pop-ups, but decent "unbiased" info that can help explain some of it: http://www.vietnam-war.0catch.com/ WIKIpedia also has some good info.

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Bailey CO
    Posts
    6,268

    Default

    Was a sadtime. We were not welcome at home and not there either.
    We did nothing to win over the people till it was too late. And the damn hippies here sucked ass.

    Wach on the History Channel and the Military Channel comes on alot probably more than 12 hurs of footage interviews dialogue etc.

  6. #6
    Bang Bang Ridge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Cedar Park, TX
    Posts
    8,307

    Default

    Maybe this is why Rambo First Blood and PtII have been playing on AMC all week...

  7. #7
    Varmiteer
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Eastern Wyoming
    Posts
    574

    Default

    we didnt lose.

    but if we did lose. the reason, I believe, is America is allways held to a higher standard. We also are tied politically by our relationships with other countries and the UN. If we fought the battles with all Americas might, we would never lose. But, we allways fight with one arm tied behind our backs. The enemy doesnt have to play by the rules. But, America must. And the rules are continually changing on us.

    hopefully this statement didnt offend anyone.

  8. #8
    Varmiteer jake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Broomfield
    Posts
    536

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    My dad had a friend (rest his soul) who was a tunnel rat in 'Nam. Some of the stories he would tell would chill you to the bone. He used to always keep the windows open for the breeze because he could swear that he "could still smell the burning flesh of those (racial slur)... we needed more napalm."

    True American heroes RIP.
    Seconded. One of my favorite books about the war is The Tunnels of Cu Chi. Just reading about what the tunnel rats faced when they would go into a tunnel is frightening.

    "A lot of people seem obliged to have a viewpoint."

  9. #9
    Gourmet Catfood Connoisseur StagLefty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    6,641

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    we didnt lose.

    but if we did lose. the reason, I believe, is America is allways held to a higher standard. We also are tied politically by our relationships with other countries and the UN. If we fought the battles with all Americas might, we would never lose. But, we allways fight with one arm tied behind our backs. The enemy doesnt have to play by the rules. But, America must. And the rules are continually changing on us.

    hopefully this statement didnt offend anyone.
    ^ Same reason Iraq is taking so long.
    Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to Fight, he'll just kill you.

  10. #10
    COAR SpecOps Team Leader theGinsue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Colo Spr
    Posts
    21,951
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    We lost. And we lost because our politicians "fought" the conflict (Not officially a "war"...while I don't want to take anything away from those who served, the U.S. never officially declared war on Vietnam). It was our soldiers (soldiers/sailors/Marines/airmen) who fought the battles, but only the battles that they were allowed to fight.

    We would lose lots of lives "taking" a hill, only to back off at night allowing the VC to re-take the hill. Come the next morning, our soldiers were directed to re-take the hill. This scenario often repeated over and over throughout the conflict.
    Ginsue - Admin
    Proud Infidel Since 1965

    "You can't spell genius without Ginsue." -Ray1970, Apr 2020

    Ginsue's Feedback

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •