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    Unless the vehicles here in the "Rust Belt" (Illinois) are just a few years old, they are sporting a huge amount of rust. These vehicles still run fine but the owners apparently never heard of under carriage washs at the car wash places.

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    I thought the trick was to simply hit every sizable mud puddle available, instead of paying that extra $ at the car wash...
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    Didn't the EPA squash the use of salt in Denver back in the late 70s, because it was polluting the Platte? Then they went after sand because particulates were polluting the air. Now, suddenly, CDOT has decided that salt is ok again? I smell a rat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Didn't the EPA squash the use of salt in Denver back in the late 70s, because it was polluting the Platte? Then they went after sand because particulates were polluting the air. Now, suddenly, CDOT has decided that salt is ok again? I smell a rat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    I thought the trick was to simply hit every sizable mud puddle available, instead of paying that extra $ at the car wash...
    The puddles also have a heavy concentration of the salt/chemicals. I'll take the adobe mud of Colorado any day over the salt here in the Rust Belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrey View Post
    I thought the trick was to simply hit every sizable mud puddle available, instead of paying that extra $ at the car wash...
    That is to help clean the windshields of the cars around you that ran out of windshield fluid.

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    Suddenly, it doesnt feel like I'm wasting the $35/mo for unlimited car washes.

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    Magnesium Chloride is a salt BTW, and one that is generally worse for modern vehicles than Sodium Chloride. MgCl is slicker and forms a gel layer in some conditions that is worse than actual ice. MgCl eats aluminum (transfer cases, differentials, hubs, A-arms) and is responsible for a lot of catastrophic suspension failures. NaCl reacts with aluminum too, but does not break down or prevent the reformation of the protective layer like MgCl.
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    Yeah, mag chloride is awful. Xcel blames the spike in transformer failures/explosions on MgCl backsplash, and what it does to brass and copper electrical components shouldn't happen to Sodom and Gomorrah. It was originally brought in as an "eco friendly" alternative to NaCl (meaning the EPA didn't have regs regarding MgCl pollution in the Platte), at about 5 times the cost. Expect them to go to KCl or something similar when they figure out how bad all of this is for the environment.
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    I know mag chloride eats the cheap chrome on vehicles now.

    guess I'll have to wash the cars more often and really get underneath
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