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    Contentious banter aside- and polarizing debate notwithstanding, is there any update on the HPA? Congress' website on the bill states that on 2/6 it was referred to the subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security, and Investigations, but nothing else.

    Also had a chat with a coworker about the state law issue and if the HPA passed and became law, since there is no licensing ability they would be "defacto" illegal, but that would simply invite a request to the legislature to remove that language from the statute or institute some sort of licensing. Neither is likely to happen with our blue legislature, but enough noise made about turning honest gun owners into criminals might raise the issue.
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    If you kept your stamps, wouldn't those serve as your permission slip to own a muffler?

    It would end all new purchases, transfers or manufacturing of mufflers in Colorado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    If you kept your stamps, wouldn't those serve as your permission slip to own a muffler?

    It would end all new purchases, transfers or manufacturing of mufflers in Colorado.
    Why wouldn't you keep your stamps? They're proof of ownership, especially for those who built them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Why wouldn't you keep your stamps? They're proof of ownership, especially for those who built them.
    Part of the HPA is an option to have the $200 tax stamp refunded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    Part of the HPA is an option to have the $200 tax stamp refunded.
    Can't I just tell them "I'll take the money, but I'm keeping the paperwork"?
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    I thought they would only be refunding the tax for applications received after some date in October of last year.

    Interesting about how this impacts Colorado. I have 4 stamps pending and 4 on the books. Might need to add to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfortune View Post
    I thought they would only be refunding the tax for applications received after some date in October of last year.

    Interesting about how this impacts Colorado. I have 4 stamps pending and 4 on the books. Might need to add to that.

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    For all you folks saying you'll wait until HPA passes to buy a can, have you considered the effects it will have on supply and demand? Currently, the purchase of a suppressor is cost prohibitive and the application process wait time and expense puts most people off. If HPA passes, EVERYONE is going to try to buy a suppressor or two. There is no way the current supply is going to accommodate that increased demand, and not only will there be long out-of-stock issues, the price of in-stock items will instantly increase. I think it's going to take a long time for it to get to the point where you can just go to the gunshop and pick up a new can at a reasonable price.

    Thinking out loud... if you were thinking of getting setup to manufacture suppressors for sale (legally of course), you'd probably be in a great position to make some money if HPA passes. Demand will be astronomical.
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    Go buy one now and get your money back later. Sounds like a great investment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOC View Post
    Go buy one now and get your money back later. Sounds like a great investment.
    Kind of like what happened after Sandy Hook and Aurora when the dems were making talk about banning "assault weapons." The price gouging was incredible, but that's the law of capitalism, buy low, sell high.

    I think Teufelhund is onto something- figure out how to manufacture quality suppressors and you're in business.
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