Colorado Paper Refuses To Retract Letter Calling For Violence Against Frackers

[Grant H.]

first thing I thought as well. He is worried about keeping neighborhoods safe and says "blow up wells" ...cause that's better....

I wonder if the twit that wrote the letter remembers, or is even old enough to, the fires in Kuwait... Bad freaking day.

Before someone comes in on the "it's not the same" horse, I know. The wells here are very different than the wells there, and the severity of the fires would be less. The difference is, we aren't in a desert. We are in farm lands, can be near to neighborhoods and schools, etc.

[Irving]

[JohnnyDrama]

Thank you for the thoughtful and non-incendiary reply. It gave me some food for thought.

Not gonna flame you, but...

OK...so things "could be run a whole lot cleaner". I don't know enough about the process to really agree or disagree so I don't have a problem with that. I do have a problem with, "I say good on 'im". Because it could be done cleaner that justifies this?

If that's the case, don't we have a moral responsibility to blow up the car that's driven by the chronic speeder thru the neighborhood that threatens our kids? Or the drug dealers...shouldn't we blow up the known drug houses? Or the guy who beats his wife and kids? Shouldn't they all be fair game to be "eliminated" and have their property destroyed?

The problem is, those are all bad analogies because the things those hypothetical people are doing are illegal. Fracking is legal, like it or not. It's not like an oil company sneaks into a "neighborhood" and does this on the sly.

My question is, when can I start to eliminate those that promote taking away our guns or otherwise restricting our Constitutional protections or just generally pissing me off with their progressive, bullshit policies? Cause I'd like to get started on that project right away.

My post was the product of some frustration over several things. Firstly, the do-gooders out there who want to be nannies to the whole world and think they can legislate us into their idea of a better life. These people blindly follow the myopic political dogma of the parties until certain topics become mutually exclusive and nonsensical policies result. Secondly, some wonderment at why the gas and oil industry insists on putting wells and facilities in such plain sight. Some oil fields give me visions of Mordor. They are their own worst enemy. Lastly, people like Mr. O'Conner, who likely hasn't been on an oil field and spends his time clicking through social media, looking at other people's reposts, getting his panties in an ever increasingly large wad until he has to spout off to a newspaper. Like most people he probably doesn't care where the energy that lights his house comes from as long as when he flicks the switch, the lights come on.

You're correct. Fracking is legal and many other things are not. Many violent acts are not. Used to be that the difference between legal/illegal or right/wrong were pretty evident and one could trust their moral compass to tell the two apart. I'm not advocating violence but I think if more SJWs were help accountable either by the legal system or the public at large, they'd be more careful about what they say/do.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm not advocating violence but I think if more SJWs were help accountable either by the legal system or the public at large, they'd be more careful about what they say/do.

I absolutely agree with that. When you have mayors like the asshat in Berkeley who is likely affiliated with the anarchist group BAMN and police who either don't enforce the law or are ordered to NOT enforce the law, it's maddening. Frankly, I think the police should load up shotguns and/or rifles with less than lethal ammo and start firing on rioters as soon as it starts. If what happened in Berkeley, stayed in Berkeley, and was paid for by only those in Berkeley, I wouldn't give a rat's ass about what went on there. But you and I are the ones who pay for the damage and destruction caused by the communist-sympathizing lowlifes in the form of higher insurance and other ways regardless of where we live. Trust me...few people hate the leftist SJW types more than I do.

[zulu01]

The guy who wrote the letter is now asking for protection.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/next...tion/434459588

[CS1983]

O'Connor told 9NEWS reporter Brandon Rittiman that he was not advocating for violence, just for blowing up wells.

ETA:

Yet, Andrew O'Connor ratcheted up the rhetoric again on Wednesday, telling the website ColoradoPolitics.com that he wouldn't have a problem with snipers shooting workers at a fracking site.

-zulu01's link

[Irving]

I'm not commenting on the letter, because I haven't read it; nor even about the oil industry or how they operate.

However, just because something is legal, doesn't mean that it's ethical or should just be accepted as "it's okay because it's legal." It seems important to make this general observation because I so often see people trying to shut down arguments with either "It's not against the law," or "That's not a right." Those kinds of statements are cop-outs.

[brutal]

I'm not commenting on the letter, because I haven't read it; nor even about the oil industry or how they operate.

However, just because something is legal, doesn't mean that it's ethical or should just be accepted as "it's okay because it's legal." It seems important to make this general observation because I so often see people trying to shut down arguments with either "It's not against the law," or "That's not a right." Those kinds of statements are cop-outs.

Said every pro-life person ever.

Not commenting on my personal beliefs, because frankly, I consider my views complex when it comes to the topic, just pointing out the obvious.

[Great-Kazoo]

However, just because something is legal, doesn't mean that it's ethical or should just be accepted as "it's okay because it's legal."

I've heard that from people defending more restrictive gun laws

[Irving]

It's certainly a double edged sword that plays apart in many, many different situations. Another example is civil forfeiture. It's legal so we should all roll over and accept it right?
I'm not trying to rile up and scream "We've got to DO something!" I'm just making the point that saying, "Well, it's legal," to try and end a discussion is kind of like shutting down a conversation because someone wasn't PC enough.

I'm not picking on Bailey here either just because he happened to point out the legality of fracking in this thread (he's obviously correct on that point). Just something I've observed over the years in watching discussions on sensitive issues on here, other boards, real life, etc. I guess in short I'm saying that legality aside, most topics are far more nuanced than the black and white issue of the law.

I heard something on the news recently about an oil well exploding and killing some people. I've been away from the news for a few weeks so I don't have a good lock on when/where exactly this happened, but I thought it was here. This thread immediately jumped to mind.