Why The Vegas Shooting Happened, and Why Men Keep Doing This

[newracer]

Interesting read

https://byrslf.co/thoughts-on-the-ve...g-14af397cee2c

[Gman]

I don't buy it. He seems to be painting the picture of a lonely child throwing a tantrum.

[Dave_L]

I read that article earlier and i still think you have to have something way more seriously wrong to plan an attack like this. However, I think there is *some* validity to the idea that as we get more technologically advanced, we're losing what it means to be a human. The internet has turned people into complete a$$holes that wouldnt say 90% of the stuff to someone's face, in real life. The internet has multiplied the ability to outcast someone because they can never get away from it. Its only getting worse as the nation gets divided more too. Ive had people personally message me on Facebook degrading me after making a joke about the Dallas Cowboys. They also proceeded to make fun of my wife as she was in my profile picture. The internet can be a disgusting place and humans are addicted to it for some odd reason.

Humans need to be humans. We arent designed for this fast paced, 30 second attention span. It causes people to short circuit. Now add in a number of any other factors and we start seeing recipes for disaster. So while the article blames it on nurturing, I see it as we are forgetting how to be human. Thats just my $.02.

[Skip]

Good thoughts IMHO. Stuff to keep thinking about. Not sure there are good solutions when people decide to isolate themselves.

I think another factor is: In the absence of objective morality, all that matters is one's id. There isn't a shared concept of right/wrong anymore especially when you are cut off from others/activities with others.

I got the same sense from James Holmes' journal. He needed to be validated and saw no significant consequences ("justice system" is a joke). He did what was right for him. Same with Columbine. Same with (what we know) Sandy Hook.

Not sure that is in play here though. There is a lot of information that has yet to be released.

[BushMasterBoy]

Next thing they will tell us is the Viagra quit working. More proof that Viagra kills.


Author:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hoehn

[MarkCO]

I read it and there is a lot of good information in there. But, lets face it, if you are on this board, you HAVE a hobby and play time and chances are good that some of your friends are also your shooting buddies...so most of what the author talks about will (and should) seem foreign as to direct application to your life. A pattern of despair and isolation, or a chemical imbalance is quicksand for some people and that path can lead to degradation.

Engineers and Accountants are some odd ducks in general. At one point I read an article about the lifespan of Lockheed-Martin based on date of retirement...18 months. No kids, no Job, no hobby, nobody dependant upon you...sounds like many men's dream, but it is a nightmare. Regardless of one's worldview, we need to be needed/wanted/admired and how that comes out is a little different in each of use. But devoid of that, again, how it comes out is a little different.

And the shooting sports are not immune. I have seen more men with addictive personalities in the shooting sports than in any other life segment. When they get bored, they move on. But I can give you two that I have personal connections to (Blane West and Matt Burkett) that both went down the rabbit hole and ended up with felony and drug charges. The final few years of the decline was not pretty for either and we are just lucky one of them did not take the path of going out in a hail of bullets.

This article might, or might not, be relevant to the LV Shooter, but that does not dismiss the validity and insight.

[KAPA]

Engineers and Accountants are some odd ducks in general. At one point I read an article about the lifespan of Lockheed-Martin based on date of retirement...18 months. No kids, no Job, no hobby, nobody dependant upon you...sounds like many men's dream, but it is a nightmare. Regardless of one's worldview, we need to be needed/wanted/admired and how that comes out is a little different in each of use. But devoid of that, again, how it comes out is a little different.

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https://retireediary.wordpress.com/2...t-early-death/

Never thought about this before. Always assumed retirement would be great, especially earlier... I need a new job!

[Aloha_Shooter]

It all depends on what you call retirement. My grandfather retired from his medical practice very early and spent his next 30 years playing golf and traveling around the world. He had friends and he had hobbies. My dad also retired relatively early but he had golf, his golfing buddies, puttering around the house, and his first grandson -- I'm convinced he'd still be around if it hadn't been for the cancer. It's the guy who has nothing else in his life other than work who loses meaning to his life on "retirement". I believe most of them lose the will to live because they've lost meaning. I don't think it explains this psycho at all as he appeared to have his own hobbies with flying and gambling.

[Gman]

I think another factor is: In the absence of objective morality, all that matters is one's id. There isn't a shared concept of right/wrong anymore especially when you are cut off from others/activities with others.

I got the same sense from James Holmes' journal. He needed to be validated and saw no significant consequences ("justice system" is a joke). He did what was right for him. Same with Columbine. Same with (what we know) Sandy Hook.

This is what I notice as well, and along those lines, most people in our society have policed ourselves but that is changing;

[MarkCO]

A friend sent me a message today and in it he stated: " Narcissism is needed to be the best at any activity. I'm sure our desire to have a well rounded kid has..." which I generally agree with. I took the article as pointing out the path that most mass shooters start upon, not a feel sorry for him plea. However it happens, they still make the choice to embrace and foster the evil/hate, or shun it.