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    Hey Chris, you and your pal Kyle can kiss my rose red ass. Oh yeah, drownings alone are horrendous, write something about that you worthless puke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    You know, it’s just a matter of time before they use that stat and push for banning human drivers when fully self driven car are made.
    Oh, I'm waiting for that...you know the .gov and do-gooders will push hard for it. After all, "If it saves just one life...".
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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    They need to embellish the stats a little bit and report how many black people were killed by black people, and how many black people were killed by anyone else.
    This was on in my house in the background this morning, but happened to take a minor note of it.
    If you watch the video, they basically do the first part (no embellishment needed) of your request as they show the pictures of the victims. Unshockingly, it is predominantly blacks, and in places like Baltimore, St. Louis, Chicago, Detroit, etc. Over and again.
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    I'm not an anti-gunner, says the anti-gunner.

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    KUSA - Don’t think I’m trying to change your mind.

    I’m not.

    I never had an anti-gun or pro-gun agenda in mind when I sat down to work on this project.

    I simply wanted to add something to the conversation.

    Perspective.

    That’s it.

    A few months ago, 58 people died while trying to enjoy an outdoor concert in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    58.

    STORY: It took less than 50 hours for 58 more people to die from guns after the Las Vegas shooting

    I’m sure you felt as sick as I feel now as I struggle to elicit complex thoughts and emotions using nothing more unsatisfactory than a number.

    58.

    It is a number that represents yet another threshold crossed.

    Yet another definition of the words “deadliest modern-day American shooting” reached.

    That’s not why I started working on this project, however.

    Not too long ago, I started examining dozens of obituaries and online news articles in an effort to put together a story not on the 58 who died in Las Vegas.

    That story had already been told and retold over local, national, and international airwaves.

    What I wanted to do was try to find out how much longer it would take for another 58 people to die in the United States on the wrong end of a gun.

    My count started immediately after the first shot fired in Vegas.

    One minute later and 1,244 miles away, police in Louisiana discovered a 22-year old dead in an SUV.

    He became my list’s starting point.

    No. 1.

    With the help of the website www.gunviolencearchive.org, I kept counting.

    I deliberately chose not to include suicides because reporting on suicide is either sporadic or nonexistent.

    In other words, minus quizzing an endless number of coroner’s offices across the country, that data would have been virtually inaccessible under the time constraints of this project.

    I did include accidental deaths as well as officer-involved shootings.

    I chose that not to highlight anything other than that idea that I believe my audience is smart enough to consider the unique nature of both when it comes to this discussion.

    I did manage to find at least one act of self-defense.

    I’m also comfortable enough to say there could be more acts of self-defense on my list.

    I can’t find one death on the list that involved something other than a handgun.

    I also know, for a fact, many of those who died were not exactly saints, but I’m also a believer in the idea that even felons aren’t always at fault when it comes to their own murders.

    Disagree?

    Sorry.

    It took me a few weeks to put together this list.

    I don’t claim it to be definitive.

    There remains the possibility I missed some. Not all gun deaths go reported online.

    But it gives you an idea of just how long it took for at least another 58 people to die in gun-related homicide.

    By my count, it took a little more than two days. 49 hours. 38 minutes.

    That’s it.

    If you look at FBI statistics from 2016, that’s slightly longer than the 2016 average.

    Consider the list as you will.

    I have no intention of using it to try to suggest anyone should come for your guns.

    I also have no intention of suggesting any of the myriad of gun law proposals I’ve seen to date would have had much of an impact on the list.

    I simply wanted to see how long it might take.

    That’s it.

    Now I know.

    And so, perhaps, you do too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Oh, I'm waiting for that...you know the .gov and do-gooders will push hard for it. After all, "If it saves just one life...".
    The "good" news is - I'm pretty sure self-driven cars will take a few more lives before this goes mainstream. They've already gotten at least one.
    I'm pumped about self driving cars, personally, but I want an override switch too. Not this i, robot thing.
    But, programming for human unpredictability is going to take them a few lives (no pun intended).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    The "good" news is - I'm pretty sure self-driven cars will take a few more lives before this goes mainstream. They've already gotten at least one.
    I'm pumped about self driving cars, personally, but I want an override switch too. Not this i, robot thing.
    But, programming for human unpredictability is going to take them a few lives (no pun intended).
    I’m really excited about self driving cars too, in fact I just test drove a Tesla model X, I want the AI to replace the part of driving I hate (stop and go I25). I don’t think human drivers should be outright banned, not yet anyways. But I do know that those half brain dead media slaves will spin the vehicles death when the time comes just like they are doing with guns now.
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    I didn't feel like looking for more current numbers so based on 2012 numbers from the CDC, there were 3,952,841 babies born in the US. Divided by 365 days in one year, that makes about 10,830 each day or 451 each hour. Using the same 49 hour time frame used by the author, when 58 people died from gunshot wounds, 22,110 babies were born in the US. Just as a simple math problem this puts the US more than 22,050 in the plus column if we were just considering gun deaths.

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    This article needs a snazy info graphic.
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    I think this is going to be a good thread!

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    So we are saying we are surprised by a very liberal media outlet spinning an anti 2A article while ignoring much more prevalent causes of death....



    .....well I never would have thought that..
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