Denver Bump Stock / Binary Trigger / Mag Ban

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Didn't see it posted anywhere so thought I would start a thread...

Denver councilman proposes ban on bump stocks for semiautomatic guns in response to Las Vegas massacre

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/2...ump-stock-ban/

It also would modify the magazine capacity limit to conform with a four-year-old state law. Denver’s assault weapons ban set the magazine capacity limit at 20 rounds, but in 2013 the state legislature passed a 15-round limitation for magazines...

Doesn't appear to be any grandfathering unlike the state ban which hardly makes it conforming.

What happens if someone is caught in Denver with a 20 round PMag which was in his possession prior to July 1, 2013?

Seems to me there needs to be a reckoning on federal/state/local supremacy. Funny how that selectively works in certain people's favor. Meanwhile, the casual violence we see every day in Denver is not a problem for the shitty council.

[Will1776]

Ugh

[SamuraiCO]

The criminal element in Denver are sweating. What will they use to commit their crimes now?

The stupidity from the nanny state is never ending. Prime example of the hypocrisy from the left when they state "sensible gun laws", "background loophole" etc are never enough and it all leads to banning then confiscation.

[TFOGGER]

Another solution to a nonexistent problem. Once again, the Denver City Council is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic...

[.455_Hunter]

I asked this question here before and got the "don't worry about it" response....

Are non-Denver residents in legal jeopardy if they are driving through town or stopping with "high capacity magazines" in their vehicle?

[Ronin13]

I asked this question here before and got the "don't worry about it" response....

Are non-Denver residents in legal jeopardy if they are driving through town or stopping with "high capacity magazines" in their vehicle?

Repeat after me "I refuse to consent to any searches without probable cause or a warrant."
What they don't know you have can't hurt you. Besides, I'm pretty sure DPD has much bigger fish to fry than someone driving through their city with a dangerous "High capacity magazine" that is otherwise doing nothing wrong.

[buffalobo]

Quote by Councilmoron Espinoza -

“I’m under no illusion that if somebody is hell-bent on committing a heinous crime, they could both have larger magazines and modify their weapon,” he said, by skirting the law or buying outside the city. “But that said, the only people in the city and county of Denver that should have that kind of firepower are law enforcement and trained officials."

This rule will change nothing but I still don't want you to have it cause I am snowflake power monger who can't wait til everyone is disarmed so I can do whatever I want.

Crooked, stupid, disingenuous totalitarian scumbag.

[cstone]

I hear DPD is getting K9 units trained to smell magazines with a capacity above 15 rounds. They retrained the dogs they used to use for detecting marijuana.

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Quote by Councilmoron Espinoza -

“I’m under no illusion that if somebody is hell-bent on committing a heinous crime, they could both have larger magazines and modify their weapon,” he said, by skirting the law or buying outside the city. “But that said, the only people in the city and county of Denver that should have that kind of firepower are law enforcement and trained officials."

This rule will change nothing but I still don't want you to have it cause I am snowflake power monger who can't wait til everyone is disarmed so I can do whatever I want.

Crooked, stupid, disingenuous totalitarian scumbag.

I wonder how many shitty councilpersons are felons?

Bold part makes it's own Miller argument.

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I asked this question here before and got the "don't worry about it" response....

Are non-Denver residents in legal jeopardy if they are driving through town or stopping with "high capacity magazines" in their vehicle?

Good thread on that here..

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/42017-3...o-go-in-Denver


If you can find 38-130 in this mess of statist drivel...

https://library.municode.com/co/denv...UORSA_DIV2WEMI


...there are several affirmative defenses listed...

(3)

It shall be an affirmative defense to charges brought under this section that the transportation of an assault weapon:

(a)

Is through the city by a nonresident who is in legal possession of an assault weapon; or

(b)

Is by a person carrying a permit issued under subsection (f) and the transportation is for one (1) of the following purposes:

i.

In aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned;

ii.

To a bona fide hunting trip for wild game, or to a legitimate sporting use of such weapon, including shooting matches or target trap or skeet shooting. All weapons carried for such purposes shall be unloaded;

iii.

While transporting such weapon to or from a place for sale outside the city or for repair. All weapons carried for such purposes shall be unloaded at all times;

iv.

As a member of the armed forces of a state or of the federal government while engaged in the lawful performance of duty;

v.

In conjunction with moving personal property, including such weapon, from an old residence to a new residence. All weapons carried for such purposes shall be unloaded at all times.

It also just occurred to me this puts some CCW choices in jeopardy. At 21 rounds, just about any pistol was okay for CCW. But now a pistol like the G17 would be verboten. I guess that's no different from the state ban, but for a lot of CCWs who have been carrying for years, it might matter.

For the children.