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    Here is an idea...

    If the state wants to make money, why not charge a "service fee" of say $5 to any magazine over 15 rounds? I know its extortion, but give the dems something they want (money to spend) and give us something?

    We need to get creative.

    Hopefully some of our Rep elected officials can make some deals to get this passed. I mean I am sure there are some things Dems want to get through the State Senate. Hold their crap hostage unless they give us some of what we want. It is called "compromise". They want something, they need to give something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    Here is an idea...

    If the state wants to make money, why not charge a "service fee" of say $5 to any magazine over 15 rounds? I know its extortion, but give the dems something they want (money to spend) and give us something?

    We need to get creative.

    Hopefully some of our Rep elected officials can make some deals to get this passed. I mean I am sure there are some things Dems want to get through the State Senate. Hold their crap hostage unless they give us some of what we want. It is called "compromise". They want something, they need to give something.
    I see your point but people should not have to pay a tax on their right. In fact I believe it's unconstitutional, not that anyone with power cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    I see your point but people should not have to pay a tax on their right. In fact I believe it's unconstitutional, not that anyone with power cares.

    I already have to pay a "fee" to get a background check.

    I already have to pay a tax for an NFA item.

    I already have to pay for a CCW permit.

    I already have to pay an excise tax on firearms and ammunition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    I already have to pay a "fee" to get a background check.

    I already have to pay a tax for an NFA item.

    I already have to pay for a CCW permit.

    I already have to pay an excise tax on firearms and ammunition.
    So why willingly pay more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    So why willingly pay more?

    Because right now I cannot buy standard cap magazine. So, if I had to pay somewhat more than not getting it at all, I would rather that.

    Its not that I want to pay more. Its a game of "would I rather".

    I would rather pay a whole lot less in taxes in general. But at least if I have to pay them, maybe I can get a little satisfaction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    Because right now I cannot buy standard cap magazine. So, if I had to pay somewhat more than not getting it at all, I would rather that.

    Its not that I want to pay more. Its a game of "would I rather".

    I would rather pay a whole lot less in taxes in general. But at least if I have to pay them, maybe I can get a little satisfaction...
    And how much does that increase next year, and the next, and the next...

    And what is the next "Oh, don't worry, they'll gladly pay to have it" item for them to tax/fee/regulate your rights with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    And how much does that increase next year, and the next, and the next...

    And what is the next "Oh, don't worry, they'll gladly pay to have it" item for them to tax/fee/regulate your rights with?

    Probably the same as the "bridge fee" on motor vehicle registration.


    I dont even really property rights. If I dont pay taxes on the property...just see how fast it is seized.

    I am so screwed by taxes, a little more a little less make no difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
    And how much does that increase next year, and the next, and the next...

    And what is the next "Oh, don't worry, they'll gladly pay to have it" item for them to tax/fee/regulate your rights with?

    Get creative.

    What can you offer DEMS that they would trade to get rid of the mag ban?

    They wont sign on out of the goodness of their hearts. So its make some sort of deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    I already have to pay a "fee" to get a background check.

    I already have to pay a tax for an NFA item.

    I already have to pay for a CCW permit.

    I already have to pay an excise tax on firearms and ammunition.
    I didn't mean to justify these taxes or fees. I was just stating that I don't think it's right and law abiding citizens shouldn't have to do it. Everyone here pays for the CCW and NFA items as well. They prefer not to and if we can avoid it I think we prefer not to have additional fees for our rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    I didn't mean to justify these taxes or fees. I was just stating that I don't think it's right and law abiding citizens shouldn't have to do it. Everyone here pays for the CCW and NFA items as well. They prefer not to and if we can avoid it I think we prefer not to have additional fees for our rights.
    In the words of a former President: "Read my lips. No. New. Taxes." They've already figured out in CO how to work around TABOR. What's really stopping them from further going after gun owners pocketbooks? It doesn't help that we have folks, here in our own community, openly stating that they'd gladly "pay a little more." That's how tyranny happens, when you keep giving them a piece of the cake without getting diddly in return. I say no more compromise, because in the end it's not compromise. They keep using that word, but it doesn't mean what they think it means.
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