Trump says he'd have attacked school shooter

[Irving]

Oh a good point for Hillary? Without taking a few hours to think about it, I would offer a snarky remark along the lines of increased pantsuit sales.
Honestly, it's a lot more tough to find good points for someone who never made it into office to actually accomplish anything.

[Skip]

The people are getting tired of the establishment candidates on both sides. The challenger on the D side was stopped because Hillary had completely bought control of their system for determining the party candidate. On the R side, Trump completely steamrolled an impotent organization that gives us RINOs and tired candidates because 'it's their turn' (remember Bob Dole? Great man, not a great presidential candidate).

If Trump continues to get the economy humming, voters can manage to overlook the things they don't like about him. I do appreciate him exposing the media bias. I don't care for his sometimes juvenile Tweets, but I also think he knows how to get what he wants by triggering his opposition.

And by steamrolling he demonstrated he was going to fight and not be a "good loser" (controlled opposition). People actually like those tweets even if they didn't always agree with the content.

As I keep saying... Results matter. If Trump implements any new gun control he is a one termer. If this was a careful calculation with offsetting support for breaking his base, maybe he would be playing that 4D chess. Gun control won't win him any support from Libs who want him dead. Not even a "thank you." But it will cost him dearly.

This betrayal won't be overlooked or forgotten. It has been damn hard to be a Trump supporter and stand up to Libs. Many of us have lost friends, had difficulties with family, and troubles at work too. All with 95% neg media coverage. Every day being told you were an idiot for voting for Trump. It took that amount of strength for him to win.

If he stabs us in the back, he's done saving any major bombshell that is worse than this. I think the smart people in the WH have done this math.

[Gman]

Many of us have lost friends, had difficulties with family, and troubles at work too. All with 95% neg media coverage.

There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

Politics is a strategic game. If you ever watched Ron Paul you'd get it. Trump seems willing, but knows it won't happen.

[hurley842002]

There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

Good post, I agree.

[buffalobo]

Oh a good point for Hillary? Without taking a few hours to think about it, I would offer a snarky remark along the lines of increased pantsuit sales.
Honestly, it's a lot more tough to find good points for someone who never made it into office to actually accomplish anything.

You think there would be good points if she got into office? If there were it would be accidental and far outweighed by the horrible points.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[buffalobo]

You got to hand it to Obama... he did some phenomenally good unintentional work in the field of gun sales and firearm rights.

True dat.

But terribly outweighed by the bad.

The best thing he did was turn Mrs bo away from Dem party, only small draw back is she is "Huuuuuge" Trump supporter.

If you're unarmed, you are a victim

[Skip]

There's a reason that you don't discuss politics or religion. If you're discussing politics at work, you had better know your audience. I have co-workers that hunt and we've discussed firearms. They even come to me when they're considering a CCW purchase to discuss (which we do discretely). I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

Politics is a strategic game. If you ever watched Ron Paul you'd get it. Trump seems willing, but knows it won't happen.

They bring it up with you and will even corner you in your own cube as you're trying to work. They've been told to get in everyone's face. They will even coordinate trips to HR.

Or you get called into a team meeting and the leader tells a joke about Conservatives or Christians. You're in the minority of people who aren't laughing.

[Gman]

They bring it up with you and will even corner you in your own cube as you're trying to work. They've been told to get in everyone's face. They will even coordinate trips to HR.

Or you get called into a team meeting and the leader tells a joke about Conservatives or Christians. You're in the minority of people who aren't laughing.

Sounds like a pretty crappy place to work. Maybe they don't have enough work to keep them focused on the business?

If they got in my face, they'd get a "That's my business and mine alone."

[Irving]

I've been at the company for 19 years and this audience can be counted on one hand with a couple of fingers left over.

I believe the correct phrase you're looking for is this one that I just made up: "I can count the number of people on one shop teacher's hand."

You think there would be good points if she got into office? If there were it would be accidental and far outweighed by the horrible points.

No, I'm saying it'd be difficult to point out something good, since nothing ever happened. I knew I wasn't going to vote for Hillary, so I never spent any time trying to look for any good. If I had basic reading comprehension and realized you were talking about the last election, and not the last administration, I wouldn't have said anything since I'm in agreement with your opinion about the last election.

They bring it up with you and will even corner you in your own cube as you're trying to work. They've been told to get in everyone's face. They will even coordinate trips to HR.

Or you get called into a team meeting and the leader tells a joke about Conservatives or Christians. You're in the minority of people who aren't laughing.

Like when you're in the HR mandated (to all employees) sensitivity class and everyone just laughs and laughs about the white male support group that the company felt like it needed to create.

[Skip]

Sounds like a pretty crappy place to work. Maybe they don't have enough work to keep them focused on the business?

There are many employees who are marginal producers with value measured by PC politics and not work performed. These are the people who will initiate a conversation with you, claim you said something you didn't, and then attempt to get you fired. HR will go full CSI on the allegation against you and never ask why that person has so much time on his hands.

If you're just there to work you aren't going to HR. But they do. How does that look? And HR often agrees with their politics. They don't view a Conservative as simply having a different opinion anymore but as a racist/homophobe/etc/etc/etc. So a HR specialist believes she is sitting down with a racist. You're guilty before the meeting starts.

I have witnessed this at multiple companies. I work in private sector tech. This is the culture, not just one place to work.

Managers will often move them after they get sick of the drama because they can't be fired. And the drama isn't just limited to politics either. If one is female and asks you to go out on a date, you can be ruined no matter what you say/do.

This is something that belongs in a few threads right now...





Do you know why I believe this anon post has some truth to it? Because I've seen how these people think and what they believe. There is no objective moral "stop" that tells these people it is wrong to get someone fired because of their beliefs. There is no limit on the lies they will tell or the shameless way they will collaborate for the cause.

You and I wouldn't dare treat someone this way. We would just think "well he has a right to his opinion" and "America is a free country."