Pics from a recent Pat Rogers 3 day Carbine Operators Course

[BigBear]

Not really into being in a line with a bunch of other people blasting away...

Ditto... however, if there were an obstacle course somewhere in there, I just may have to partake.

Clarification: A REAL obstacle course... not running up to yellow line, sticking gun through hole, firing two rounds anywhere on target at 10 yards, for time qualifications...

Real Course: Crawling through a 5 foot pipe underwater in full gear with rifle ready, mobanzique drill 3 targets in water upon exit, spar a dummy (or person) on hand techniques with knife, get over a wall topped with constantine wire, use pistol to engage 6 spread targets (double tap each) at varying distances from 5 yards to 25. Take some monkey bars or a rope course heading UP, and end course by breaching door with shotty and repelling down tower... THAT would be something I'd be interested in....

But in any case... any training (done right) is good training. I'd have fun just standing there blasting away too to be honest....

[rondog]

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[RYAN50BMG]

I would be interested in a report on how well the SCAR ran. Been eyeballing one, so just wondering.

[The Extractor]

There were 2 SCARS in the class the one in the pics ran fine but the other was a
T&E SCAR L that has 15k rds through it started having double feed issues, type 2 malf.

[Elhuero]

ok so the air ninja pistol telephone cord is not a concern for me, but I want all the rest of that gear


what type of scope in the first pic w/ guy in larue hat?

and what type of chest rig on the guy with O-NEG on his shirt?

thx

[USMC03]

Surefire M300 mini-Scout. I'm really diggin this light. Takes one CR123 battery. Lightweight, compact, puts out a lot of light for it's size, and doesn't take up much real estate:

[The Extractor]

An Elcan which is an super POS and I dont know what his rig is. I will try to find out.

[BigBear]

Meh, I'm too old and fat for ninja training.

Lol, dind't mean to upset anyone. I'm too out of shape for "ninja training" as well.... but boy I think it'd be fun to try runnin' n gunnin' instead of line shoots...

[ToliXD]

Nice pics... I want to try ninja training.

[BadShot]

No offense to any of you who are not into this type of hard training, but Pat Rogers is a hell of a guy and by all accounts (and limited if any open spots in his classes anywhere) a hell of an instructor. This is not a go stand on the line and just put holes in paper class that you might have taken to get your CCW, this is a course of instruction that will teach you how to really use and drive your AR platform and then some.

While you see a good deal of folks "geared up" in many of the class photo's, realize that a significant number of those folks use and rely on their weapons for a living. Passing judgment on the experience and class just based on the pictures isn't really an informed opinion. Take some time and look up some of the previous reviews (ala AAR's) that Jeff (USMC03) has posted for us here. I think you might be surprised and what all they accomplish and cover in a mere 3 days.

Also check out Pat's site ... http://www.eagtactical.com