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    Was William Shatner on board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    One of three failures comes to mind, bird strike, ring failure(engine part) or foreign object damage(FOD) from runway. Too bad somebody was killed. We will just have to wait until the NTSB report.
    Was a while after TO, was too high for a bird strike. If you look at the photos, there is circular damage, likely a failure of a fan blade. Extremely rare failure.

    My father worked for McDonnell Douglas in the early 60s and participated in many chicken gun tests on control surfaces, windshields and turbo-fan engines. Now that he has some dementia, the stories are less, but those are still some of my favorites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    Was a while after TO, was too high for a bird strike. If you look at the photos, there is circular damage, likely a failure of a fan blade. Extremely rare failure.

    My father worked for McDonnell Douglas in the early 60s and participated in many chicken gun tests on control surfaces, windshields and turbo-fan engines. Now that he has some dementia, the stories are less, but those are still some of my favorites.
    Definitely a blade failure. Early CFM65 experienced this according to wikipedia. I still think something hit the blade to damage it. It would be a real shocker if it was a Lyrid shower meteorite.

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    And 9 people were killed while talking on their cell phone in a traffic crash on the same day (just an average). This is insignificant as far as statistics.

    I do avoid flying AMAP though. Jut sucks these days. It used to be exciting and cool back in the old days.

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    Was at 32,200 feet when it happened, so no birds. Initial inspection of the engine shows metal fatigue where the fan meets the hub. CFM recommended ultrasonic testing for their early CFM56-series, which didn't include this engine, yet Southwest is stating that they will inspect all of their engines anyway.

    The fatality was the woman that was partially sucked out of the plane.

    1 dead after jet blows an engine; woman nearly sucked out

    The dead woman was identified as Jennifer Riordan, a Wells Fargo bank executive and mother of two from Albuquerque, New Mexico. She was the first passenger killed in an accident involving a U.S. airline since 2009. The seven other victims suffered minor injuries.

    Tumlinson said a man in a cowboy hat rushed forward a few rows "to grab that lady to pull her back in. She was out of the plane. He couldn't do it by himself, so another gentleman came over and helped to get her back in the plane, and they got her.

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    Another passenger, Eric Zilbert, an administrator with the California Education Department, said: "From her waist above, she was outside of the plane."
    Passengers struggled to somehow plug the hole while giving the badly injured woman CPR.

    Passengers did "some pretty amazing things under some pretty difficult circumstances," Philadelphia Fire Commissioner Adam Thiel said.
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    I hate to sound flippant about this, but machines break and sometimes people get hurt. Because it was an airplane, it's big news. If a car had a tire blow out and crash, killing an entire family, it wouldn't get 2 seconds of national news coverage.

    RIP to the woman was killed and good on the folks who tried to save her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    That's a pretty isometric view. Her seat is well within the cone of dispersion.
    Well obviously her seat was within the area at risk to being hit by debris. My point is, it wasn't perpendicular to the engine and that for such an extremely rare situation like this, your seat choice doesn't really matter.

    Here's a more straight on view.


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    I'm pretty skinny and I cannot even imagine getting my shoulders outside a plane window, let alone down to my waist. No matter how big the pressure difference.
    Obviously not a golfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Was at 32,200 feet when it happened, so no birds. Initial inspection of the engine shows metal fatigue where the fan meets the hub. CFM recommended ultrasonic testing for their early CFM56-series, which didn't include this engine, yet Southwest is stating that they will inspect all of their engines anyway.
    Vultures fly as hight as 37,000 feet. Just saying.

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