Dems want Colorado Red Flag Law

[roberth]

Yeah, if you file a restraining order against someone, you can't have guns either. Or so I thought.

That makes no sense.

It doesn't make sense. Like roberth, I've never filed a restraining order either (a large reason being what I posted about), so I don't know 100%. I remember a lot of talk about it on here several years ago and that is where I've gotten that impression.

I didn't find anything pertaining to the rights of the TRO/PRO filer which leads me to believe they can buy and possess firearms. The recipient of the TRO/PRO cannot possess firearms but that is normal in a DV case. A DV judgement will result in the defendent being prohibited from buying and posessing firearms, in CO I think it is a lifetime ban.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/userf...FAQs%20%20.pdf

[Irving]

Yeah but I doubt that a conservative would have enough of a problem with me to abuse it against me. I imagine a decent percent of liberals would want to disarm me as soon as they found out I'm an NRA/GOA/SAF member.

Besides, most liberals don't own guns, or if they do, don't see them as important. So what would be the point of slapping them with an ex parte gun grab order?

I imagine you'd be incorrect to assume that a significant amount of liberals would want you disarmed just because they found out that you have a gun. Also, I agree that it'd be easiest to use this law against someone who owns guns, and more likely than not people who actually have guns would be the ones to know about the law in the first place.

As to the TRO, I hope that I'm wrong, I always thought that was stupid.

[Great-Kazoo]

If there's a TRO you put out. When a 4473 bgc is called in it doesn't show who pulled it and or it's against. Just that your name is on it, making you contact in writing CBI for clarification for that or next purchase.

[roberth]

No, I think people on the right would use this law to harass anyone that they didn't like; just the same as anyone else would. I've seen it before first hand. The idea that a voting record or a set of beliefs makes a person more or less moral is batshit crazy and I can't believe that any adults that have experienced the world would believe that for one second.

I know what you mean about morals. My family is "Christian" but some of uncles fucked my father over on work at least twice that I know of, they were "COSO", Christian on Sunday Only. They are all dead now so it doesn't matter that I write this.

Voting record, how can I tie that to morals. That is pretty difficult since there are members of all parties that are adulterers or thieves or liars, just that in my experience these people are in the (R) but they don't dominate the (R) like they do the (D).

Of course nowadays the lines are really blurred since the (R) are socialists and the (D) are communists.

[Irving]

I think that it is disingenuous to assume that the majority of the people in the party that you're not in are morally corrupt. It's easy to lap up our own propaganda that people who don't feel the same on most issues are just mentally defective, but if that were anywhere near the truth, we wouldn't have survived as a species long enough to get where we are today.

[roberth]

I think that it is disingenuous to assume that the majority of the people in the party that you're not in are morally corrupt. It's easy to lap up our own propaganda that people who don't feel the same on most issues are just mentally defective, but if that were anywhere near the truth, we wouldn't have survived as a species long enough to get where we are today.

I am biased towards my team but I'm not disingenuous in the case of communism, communism has 100 years of amoral corruption and murder to back up my statement and the (D) party has embraced a very large part of that amoral corruption.

[Irving]

Yep, Communism and Marxism are terrible. Great way to convince people that they are marginalized and they better do something about it so that they'll even have a chance in this world. The thing is, it's used today in this country on dumb students who haven't even entered the world and had the chance to become a failure yet. They are so scared they yell about changing the world before they even enter it. We've seen that more and more as college enrollment increases.

[Unsuccessful]

Crap like this makes me feel like we have completely lost are once great state of Colorado. The fact that people can't see just how ignorant this idea of giving so much power to every single individual without any checks or balances boggles my mind. Is like taking advise from kids who eat tide pods.


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[Irving]

Guess what bro? I just one-sided restrictioned your face!



Thank you for clearing that up. I definitely was under the impression that it was two ways from reading about them on here. Guess I'll just trust everything I read on here less *from now on.












*Or four years, whichever comes first.

[Gman]

Got a notification from the NRA-ILA that this legislation (HB 1436) is being rushed through the House Judiciary Committee today.