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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy View Post
    That's what I was thinking when I said I'd have some questions.
    Yeah, I know things like this are hard to process for family and friends of the deceased, but I found the description of the scene odd.
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    Gun mistakenly goes off. In panic, drops mag, racks slide and manually locks it back which ejects round in chamber. She parishes after.
    Or, gun goes off racks slide, to see wtf, this thing was loaded, last round ejects with racking slide, ejects mag to check if again it was loaded. Slide is locked back due to mag being in the gun hand cycling last round. She parishes after. At least that's a few scenarios I thought of. Can't imagine what would be going through ones mind after an ND into the chest.
    Such a sad situation and again, so sorry for the loss.

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    No no no, the classic mistake of unloading a semi-auto pistol the WRONG way.

    If you rack the slide FIRST to clear the chamber, and remove the magazine SECOND - what did you just do? You just ejected the chambered round and loaded a second round before you dropped the mag, that's what you did! Always always ALWAYS, remove the magazine FIRST!

    Now you have the single round you ejected, the magazine you just removed, and a pistol that you THINK is unloaded - but actually has a fresh live round in the chamber, and a cocked hammer. This was a Kimber Micro 9, a 1911, and had no magazine cutoff safety. That gun will fire with the mag removed.

    It's also a very small pistol, and has no grip safety. It was also new, not broken in, and very stiff.

    So now she's rasslling around an "unloaded" gun, with a live round in the chamber, and trying to figure out why it's so goddamn stiff.

    If it then fired while she was handling it, the cops would have found - an empty gun with the slide locked back, the magazine removed, and one loose live round.

    This is only how I speculate it may have happened. We may never know what really happened. But we miss her.....
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    does the slide lock back on that model when no magazine is present, though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by izzy View Post
    That's what I was thinking when I said I'd have some questions.
    He was guessing what they would find, and that he doesn't have the report. Stating expecting a locked slide I would go with being a mental whoopsie on thinking thru a process experienced gun owners wouldnt have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    does the slide lock back on that model when no magazine is present, though?
    Ah, good point! A flaw in my theory. The follower in the empty magazine is what pushes up on the slide lock in a 1911 - I forgot that. Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    Gun mistakenly goes off. In panic, drops mag, racks slide and manually locks it back which ejects round in chamber. She parishes after.
    Or, gun goes off racks slide, to see wtf, this thing was loaded, last round ejects with racking slide, ejects mag to check if again it was loaded. Slide is locked back due to mag being in the gun hand cycling last round. She parishes after. At least that's a few scenarios I thought of. Can't imagine what would be going through ones mind after an ND into the chest.
    Such a sad situation and again, so sorry for the loss.
    That’s a lot to perform for someone who is in shock. I will refrain from posting anymore out of respect for the deceased, but I have questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    does the slide lock back on that model when no magazine is present, though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanWolf View Post
    That’s a lot to perform for someone who is in shock. I will refrain from posting anymore out of respect for the deceased, but I have questions.
    We have questions too, but she was alone when it happened. Anybody have any connections w/Aurora PD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    We have questions too, but she was alone when it happened. Anybody have any connections w/Aurora PD?
    I hope the PD only answers questions for her immediate family members. I despise anonymous and unnamed sources. If her family member(s) wish to share what they know, they will and they will choose who they share that information with.

    What you have done by sharing the story is admirable because it serves as a reminder of why safety is important. I hope you can remember your friend for all the things she was to you, your family, and her family while she was with you. May God Bless you all and give you peace.
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