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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    45ACP would kill an EV with a single shot at 100 yards, guar-an-teed. 9mm would just bounce off the batteries.
    Come'on man! A 9mm will at least crack the plastic on the battery case and cause an acid leak requiring the EPA to confiscate the car owners property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    45ACP would kill an EV with a single shot at 100 yards, guar-an-teed. 9mm would just bounce off the batteries.
    Foxtrot wins the thread!
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    WRT range, the problem with the range of EV's is not the range itself, it's the amount of TIME to recharge. That's the killer.

    I have a motorcycle that has an effective fuel tank range of 150 miles, less than most EVs.

    But I have ZERO "range anxiety" because (a) I plan my rides so I know when I'll be able to refuel and (b) refueling takes at most 10 minutes. There's no EV out there that can recharge in 10 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinjmpr View Post
    But I have ZERO "range anxiety" because (a) I plan my rides so I know when I'll be able to refuel and (b) refueling takes at most 10 minutes. There's no EV out there that can recharge in 10 minutes.
    I'm wondering how I can fill my 26 gallon tank in less than 5 minutes (pay at the pump). I must be using a network of Superfiller stations I didn't know about.

    Does this make any EV fans nervous? : Musk says Saudi fund wants to take Tesla private, justifying his 'funding secure' tweet; stock slips 1%

    Elon Musk is clearing up questions around taking Tesla private, saying his claim last week that the necessary funding had been secured was based on repeated and ongoing conversations with the Saudis.

    "Going back almost two years, the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund has approached me multiple times about taking Tesla private," Musk said in a blog post published Monday. "Recently, after the Saudi fund bought almost 5 percent of Tesla stock through the public markets, they reached out to ask for another meeting. That meeting took place on July 31st. ... I left the July 31st meeting with no question that a deal with the Saudi sovereign fund could be closed."

    Tesla has been battling wild stock swings and widespread scrutiny in the week following Musk's tweet last Tuesday. The SEC reportedly intensified previous inquiries into Tesla based on the tweet, which may have violated a rule that prohibits publicly traded companies from announcing plans to buy or sell securities if executives don't intend to follow through, don't have the means to complete the deal or are flat out trying to manipulate the stock price.
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    Yeah, that's interesting.
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    Yeah, the fact that Elon is considering taking Saudi money has me concerned for a lot of reasons (although I'd hope he'd be smart enough to write the contract such that they have no input into the running of Tesla).
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    The House of Saud's wealth is based on oil production.
    Most of the oil-producing ME countries have been rapidly diversifying their investments for a decade or more. Reasons have been as varied as Peak Oil being imminent to an inability of the traditional economies to keep up with population growth (especially in the "young man with nothing to do demographic).
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    Well I'm going to just admit that I am a 52 y/o "chump" and will be for the rest of my life. I simply don't see me ever owning an EV even if I live another 30 years. Fact is, unless my 17 y/o diesel gets totaled, it will most likely out last me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRnCO View Post
    Well I'm going to just admit that I am a 52 y/o "chump" and will be for the rest of my life. I simply don't see me ever owning an EV even if I live another 30 years. Fact is, unless my 17 y/o diesel gets totaled, it will most likely out last me.
    That's where I'm at +5 years on the chump part and -3 on the truck with 65K on the clock. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRnCO View Post
    Well I'm going to just admit that I am a 52 y/o "chump" and will be for the rest of my life. I simply don't see me ever owning an EV even if I live another 30 years. Fact is, unless my 17 y/o diesel gets totaled, it will most likely out last me.
    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    That's where I'm at +5 years on the chump part and -3 on the truck with 65K on the clock. ;-)
    -4 on the chump part, about +4 on the truck (early '98 12v), and 305k on the odo... and I still think it could outlast me if I take good care of 'er
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