The Wall. The Shutdown

[clodhopper]

It's a shame that compassion can be such a rare commodity.

It's a shame that thicker skin can be such a rare commodity.

Seriously, you and I have already been round and round before on this topic, so no need to rehash old ground. Whether government or private, each has its downsides and risks to those employed. Surviving a furlough isn't the end of the world, even if it is tough at the moment. I have great empathy for those stuck in that situation. However... the over-the-top sky-is-falling presentation of it makes those in other employment avenues very negative. I get it, that is not the fault of the govt workers, but rather the politicians and media. Sure would be nice to hear the pressure being applied to shame the politicians into doing their jobs, rather than constantly yanking my heart strings with misleading crap about how workers are "working without pay" like they were converted to indentured servitude. You are going to get your pay, along with all the benefits, just have to hold on for it.

In my mind what sucks the worst is the critical workers have to show up, while the non-crits get paid (albeit delayed pay) vacation. The manner of govt shutdown is stupid. Suspend all pay, hold up all expenditures, but if everyone is getting paid when it is over, then they need to show the f up every day. Most govt workers are in a union (shouldn't be allowed, but not the hill to die on with that) so either the union should be filing against the govt to change the law and prevent the furlough in the future, or arranging pay insurance to cover your salary during the furlough. The fact that none of that happens should make the union members seriously question what the benefits of union membership are, besides the govt pays the dues so it doesn't cost them anything (directly anyway).

[CHA-LEE]

Moocher?! Since when does working any career mean that it's okay to have your pay suspended, jeopardizing your credit rating, just as you've implied that they deserve as much- all because they work for the government?

There are people on this board that are affected by this event. In 2013, we were in some real difficulty with the furlough. You may not see that there are real people affected by this ridiculous tantrum by the governments. Or you may not want to see.

It's a shame that compassion can be such a rare commodity.

Every "Career" has its ups and downs. As adults we need to hedge our bets in our favor, especially when a significant issue is highly likely to happen and does happen on an annual basis. You want to work for the government, great. Part of that "Career" is accepting the fact that there are a bunch of buffoons at the top that can get into a poo flinging contest which will result in government shutdowns. Expect the poo flinging, Expect not getting paid for a while, Expect to save for these events. If you do that then its not a dire issue when it does happen.

The company I work for has forced us to burn 80 Hours of Accrued Vacation every year for the past 4 years in Company Shutdowns to reduce expenses. If you don't have enough banked vacation to cover the forced shutdown you simply don't get paid during that time. To make it even more fun, salaried employees like me that are critical to the business also get to work during those forced company shutdowns while still getting our vacation hours nuked. You hear me whining about this reality? Nope. Does it suck that my company chooses to obliterate my vacation every year and force me to basically work for free? Absolutely. But I plan for it, and budget accordingly so it doesn't impact my income or ability to pay my bills. Like I said before, adulting isn't fun or easy but its still required to get done. That reality has nothing to do with compassion.

[kidicarus13]

If it were me... a credit card will cover those affected interest free for 25-30 days. Now if that card already have a balance, well... see above posts.

[CS1983]

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Translation: the Democrats want people to hurt in order to negatively affect Trump on one of his campaign promises, and frankly don't give a damn about you, the worker.

[Irving]

It seems like voting to dole out a paycheck and then still being against the wall could have happened at the same time. Really makes one wonder what the true motives of each side are.

[BushMasterBoy]

Congressional orgy gone bad.

[clodhopper]

https://bigmemes.funnyjunk.com/pictu...fa_6915322.jpg

Translation: the Democrats want people to hurt in order to negatively affect Trump on one of his campaign promises, and frankly don't give a damn about you, the worker.

It really shows how inept the repubs are on getting consistent messaging out. The dems keep pulling jackass moves, and yet you still don't see the rpubs singing it from the rooftops. While I understand the dems have the ally of the media, the rpubs need to try harder. Also need to get past the "quiet, professional approach" and adopt the dem methods, roll around in the mud with them and stick it to em when they deserve it.

Really makes one wonder what the true motives of each side are.

No wonder needed. Both sides have the same single motive. Get re-elected.

[Irving]

It just seems like no matter what happens, we all lose. It's really a shame.

[CS1983]

It's a feature, not a bug.

[Gman]

It just seems like no matter what happens, we all lose. It's really a shame.

The best government money can buy.