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    Quote Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels View Post
    Many of the local news outlets keep replaying Rep. Tom Sullivan's passionate statements concerning his sponsorship of the current "red flag" bill.
    https://denverite.com/2019/02/14/wit...red-flag-bill/

    I am sympathetic with his grief for losing his son.
    I do not understand how this bill would have prevented the shooting at the Aurora Theater.
    If only we had involuntary commitment abilities in Colorado, when a health provider realizes that someone is a danger to themselves and/or others or is gravely disabled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BladesNBarrels View Post
    Many of the local news outlets keep replaying Rep. Tom Sullivan's passionate statements concerning his sponsorship of the current "red flag" bill.
    https://denverite.com/2019/02/14/wit...red-flag-bill/

    I am sympathetic with his grief for losing his son.
    I do not understand how this bill would have prevented the shooting at the Aurora Theater.
    Chicago Tribune 09/02/15...

    More than a month before?James Holmes' rampage on a Colorado movie theater, the head of his neuroscience graduate program called a campus police officer with alarming information: Holmes had told his psychiatrist that he wanted to kill people to make up for his failure in science.

    The call, never previously disclosed, came just after the psychiatrist expressed similar concerns to the same University of Colorado campus police officer. But newly released documents show the officer did little other than check to see whether Holmes had a criminal record and deactivate his campus access cards. And his psychiatrist declined to detain Holmes, who had revealed no specific targets or threats, because she thought it would only "inflame him."



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    Quote Originally Posted by husky390 View Post
    Surprisingly, it?s not as Draconian as I thought it?d be.


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    Not Draconian?

    Elimination of the probable cause standard to seize personal property.

    Issuing search warrants on a preponderance of the evidence.

    Continuing to seize personal property for 364 days without probable cause

    If this isn't Draconian I don't know what is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    If only we had involuntary commitment abilities in Colorado, when a health provider realizes that someone is a danger to themselves and/or others or is gravely disabled.

    Sarcasm? Law Enforcement has the ability to do this now.

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    How long before LE starts randomly prowling social media looking for "indicators"?


    This shit is terrifying when you really look at it.
    The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CavSct1983 View Post
    That's like saying, "Wow! The hangman's noose is made of a smoother rope than I'd thought it'd be!"
    Duh. My statement is based on our current libtard legislation session. I am in fact surprised that they included a paid lawyer to the victim (gun owner)and changed it to multiple reviews during the year vs one.

    I?m by no way wanting to see this first step in ?desensitizing the public to gun confiscation? legislation passed. It?s total bs and I?m really getting tired of people using suicide, which was thrown around in the articles that I read, as an excuse for more gun control.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MAP View Post
    Not Draconian?

    Elimination of the probable cause standard to seize personal property.

    Issuing search warrants on a preponderance of the evidence.

    Continuing to seize personal property for 364 days without probable cause

    If this isn't Draconian I don't know what is.

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    Bad juju. Another check in the GTFO column.
    If you're unarmed, you are a victim


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    Quote Originally Posted by MAP View Post
    Sarcasm? Law Enforcement has the ability to do this now.
    Exactly. Let’s also ignore the fact that he’s a big Union guy and has a history with the AFL-CIO (hrmmm, now what sort of folks do unions put out? “Unions are the trade schools of Communism.”- V. Lenin).

    Using his son’s gravestone as a hard floor for a Constitution shredding tap dance is sickening.
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    I want to remind folks of what happened to the guns while in storage during the Katrina confiscation. If a person has one or two guns maybe not a big deal. If you are taking guns from my uncle or other older long time collector I'm not sure they are set up for such a seizure. I promise you they wont take as good care as you do. My other thought is, this needs to be linked to cars too. Especially after the kid that got text murdered by his girlfriend. This law is stink from top to bottom. I see no real upside. You almost need registration of guns to make it work. Otherwise you don't know if you got all of them.

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