time to donate

[sniper7]

http://www.nagr.org/internetblast3.aspx?pid=a22

I just gave em $10. You know it is going to good use, what it is being used for.

If you can throw 410 on your card it might protect your rights.

this day in age it is now about $$ being spent to keep your rights than to follow the true fundamentals that we believe in. obviously we shouldn't need to fight for our 2nd amendment rights but unfortunately that isn't the case so it will cost us a little $$.

deadline is soon, so if you can help, do it quick!

[Elhuero]

so can we call members of this organization "naggers"?


hehe

[Byte Stryke]

time to get on my Fire-Suit....

To an extent I Agree that the "Gun-show Loophole" is a problem.


Now, that Being said I Do not believe that the solution to this problem is to mandate BCI's for all private party transfers.

I believe that the definitions of "private Party" need to be a little better defined.

In my opinion, if you sell or trade >100 weapons in 365 days you are NOT a private Party.
Hell, I would say if you do more that 50 you should be considered a dealer.
(that's more that 4 guns a month EVERY month)
How to control it?
I Dunno. I never said it was a perfect Idea.
But I Do watch some of the gun grabbers videos on youtube and some of that shit scares me.
One "Collector" says he sells more than 300 SKS a year
and he doesn't care if the buyer might not pass a background check.
Seriously, that is a problem.


Criminals will still steal weapons and sell weapons to other criminals.
But its a far cry better than outlawing private sales.

my 2 cents

[Elhuero]

when people start wanking about the gun show loophole I just say "what part of 'shall not be infringed' did you not understand?"

or as uncle ted says "The Second Amendment of our Bill of Rights is my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD."

[Jumpstart]

when people start wanking about the gun show loophole I just say "what part of 'shall not be infringed' did you not understand?"

or as uncle ted says "The Second Amendment of our Bill of Rights is my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD."

My sentiments exactly.

[jim02]

when people start wanking about the gun show loophole I just say "what part of 'shall not be infringed' did you not understand?"

or as uncle ted says "The Second Amendment of our Bill of Rights is my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD."

You nailed it.

[sniper_tim]

In my opinion, if you sell or trade >100 weapons in 365 days you are NOT a private Party.

who's to say it is 100, 50, or even 5? The number of "criminals" stopped from background checks is a joke and at the expense of law abiding citizens. I can sell mary kay products, baseball bats, compound bows, <your hobby here>, out of my house all day long without a license, why would i need a license to sell guns? Have the crime rates decreased since the feds started licensing gun dealers? I suspect they have increased.

One of the major news organizations (maybe fox) had a big article on the recent supreme courts decision for chicago and their handgun bans. they had lots of statistics, which were extremely interesting. For instance, CA gun laws are basically a whole book in themselves, where as CO is a couple pages. CO only has 1-2 deaths more a year per capita than CA, so obviously the laws are not saving lives. The reasoning behind the laws are to "protect" the public.

I'm not too big on public education, however education has proven to be a bigger factor the bans/licensing, just look at the hunter education program, accidental deaths have fallen to near 0 since it's inception.

cheers,
Tim

[Byte Stryke]

when people start wanking about the gun show loophole I just say "what part of 'shall not be infringed' did you not understand?"

or as uncle ted says "The Second Amendment of our Bill of Rights is my concealed weapons permit. PERIOD."

who in the fuck said anything about carry concealed permits?

Try and focus Guys...
I'm talking about the wankers that sell to 300+ SKS er whatever to people they KNOW are criminals at gun shows and hide under the private party laws.

some people are so anti gun control that it becomes an anti gun logic.
no one is saying that legal citizens would be "infringed".
Im Saying that if you sell 40 guns a month, you are probably doing this shit full time as a business and should have some sort of oversight. not that you cannot sell guns, but that you aren't a private party anymore, you are a Business.

[Irving]

I agree with that. You can only sell so many cars a year before you are considered a dealer. I don't have any suggestions about where to start drawing any lines though.

Elhuero was just directly quoting Ted Nuget. He knows this isn't about concealed carry, but the quote holds true either way.

[TS12000]

And so in turn you support registering every gun? How else would you know how many a person sells privately? Yeah no thanks. Unfortunately there are idiots who could care less who they sell to and are all about the green. How about punishing the actual criminals severely instead of taking steps to removing our rights and making us the criminals.