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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    So more laws are going to magically change human nature? If its human nature for people to do stupid shit while ignoring potential consequences, then it is what it is. There is also the fact that there will always be the unlucky portion of people who's suffering and sacrifice serve as roll models of how NOT to do it. Using and abusing illegal substances is WELL KNOWN to cause a wide range of issues. People know this at a very young age. Nobody is growing up in a complete information/warning vacuum then also have access to drugs and think using them is a good thing to do. Every one of those addicts made a choice to use them for the first time knowing full well that it could cause trouble.

    Is it tragic that peoples lives are destroyed by using illegal substances? Absolutely. But the situation being "tragic" doesn't justify ignoring the fact that they have 100% done it to themselves. If I decided to take up a hobby of juggling chainsaws running full throttle, I can't expect anyone to have pity for me when I end up sawing off appendages. I need to live with the choice I made to participate in that activity. Drug use is no different.
    Laws aren't going to magically change human nature.

    They're just going to make sure that the cops can throw these assholes in the clink when necessary.

    Some drug-addicted idiot may be 100% responsible for his actions, but that doesn't change the fact that his actions will impact those people around him, and frankly, I'd much rather live in a society where I can call the cops on my meth head neighbor for causing trouble than not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Laws aren't going to magically change human nature.

    They're just going to make sure that the cops can throw these assholes in the clink when necessary.

    Some drug-addicted idiot may be 100% responsible for his actions, but that doesn't change the fact that his actions will impact those people around him, and frankly, I'd much rather live in a society where I can call the cops on my meth head neighbor for causing trouble than not.
    Throwing more people in jail doesn't solve the problem. For most of these deadbeats going to jail is an upgrade to their life style. Not to mention the obvious over subscription of the prison system as it is. What we are really battling is over population in general and the complete lack of natural selection that used to exist 100 years ago. The more people there are the more stupid people there are. As much as most people don't want to accept it, making stupid decisions is really the only form of natural selection that happens today.

    Legalizing all drugs would simply speed up that natural selection process, which is obviously needed given our out of control population growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    Legalizing all drugs would simply speed up that natural selection process, which is obviously needed given our out of control population growth.
    This is just as much of a pipe dream as my insistence that drugs should be legalized because a percentage of society can use them responsibly. Drug use isn't an automatic death sentence anymore than the idea that most people would only occasionally use them in a safe, recreational manner.
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    If all drugs were legal, at least I could get the medication I need. I am suffering the misdiagnosis of many doctors. All I need is some prednisone, the fing pain is horrendous. At least I stopped the cluster headaches without using psilocybin mushrooms.
    Forget the "military industrial complex" beware of the "pharma medical economy". They have infiltrated every layer of our lives, and all they really care about is money and easy profits. They are even drugging all the food we eat...we are asking for a disaster the likes we have never seen in recorded history. The whole country is sick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Mushrooms are not physically addictive.
    Neither is weed. Do people use it and other substances as a crutch, yes. Is it addictive to the point you smoke 1 joint or consume an edible, you're the new star of the Reefer Madness remake. Not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHA-LEE View Post
    Throwing more people in jail doesn't solve the problem. For most of these deadbeats going to jail is an upgrade to their life style. Not to mention the obvious over subscription of the prison system as it is. What we are really battling is over population in general and the complete lack of natural selection that used to exist 100 years ago. The more people there are the more stupid people there are. As much as most people don't want to accept it, making stupid decisions is really the only form of natural selection that happens today.

    Legalizing all drugs would simply speed up that natural selection process, which is obviously needed given our out of control population growth.
    I believe the Government should remove all Warning Labels and let nature decide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    I believe the Government should remove all Warning Labels and let nature decide.
    I like the thought...but then there's reality. They'll take many innocents with them.

    ...and then come the lawyers wanting to pin blame to anything with a dollar sign (and not the poor decision makers themselves).
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    Meh, let's just turn this place into Amsterdam already and get it over with. On a side note, something that hasn't really been talked about is how this is going to affect law enforcement officers on the street. Denver DA is already moving to reduce felony drug possession/distributing charges down to a misdemeanor. I have talked to some Denver officers who are already frustrated because their hands are tied. Politicians are padding statistics to present the City of Denver as being a "safe place" to frequent, when in reality it is not. As a Dispatcher I have a pretty good idea of what's going on out there and Denver is a damn train wreck. So sure, we "legalize everything" and let Darwin do the rest. Not accounting for how many innocent people will be hurt in the fallout of that.
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