The system

[Bailey Guns]

If you think that a bunch of white people are going to be able to figure out how the experiences of non-white people shape their perceptions, without the input of non-white people, prepare for disappointment.

Well if you flipped that around wouldn't the same be true? Couldn't you say that about any 2 different people? Couldn't you say that about a man vs a woman? That sounds like something you may have heard somewhere that you thought makes you sound really woke to repeat.

[Bailey Guns]

I don't believe anything till I see it or reported by my own credible source.

And what does your credible source tell you? I'm guessing...and I may be wrong...that it's telling you the whole systemic racism thing currently claimed by blacks against the "white" system is bullshit.

That's what my sources tell me over and over. That's what my experiences tell me over and over. Doesn't mean there isn't isolated instances here and there. Systemic? Unh uh.

[buffalobo]

If you think that a bunch of white people are going to be able to figure out how the experiences of non-white people shape their perceptions, without the input of non-white people, prepare for disappointment.

Nothing to add, please enjoy the show.

Intellectual exercise, no intent to fix anything.

[buffalobo]

I'm just going to drop this right here, it's a minority gentleman's view of "the system" and other topics.

**WARNING** Language and other potentially offensive comments within.

https://youtu.be/o5nwTkrp57Y

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Same as Irving, thanks for playing.

[Irving]

Well if you flipped that around wouldn't the same be true? Couldn't you say that about any 2 different people? Couldn't you say that about a man vs a woman? That sounds like something you may have heard somewhere that you thought makes you sound really woke to repeat.

Let me retract the first statement and replace with, "when people go out of their way to not understand something, don't get your hopes up.

This has already been demonstrated in this thread, including your response to me. Your immediate jump to, "Oh you're just trying to sounds woke, huh huh." Is exactly why a thread like to is a lost cause. I won't hop in and ruin the conversation. Have fun with the conversation.

[buffalobo]

And what does your credible source tell you? I'm guessing...and I may be wrong...that it's telling you the whole systemic racism thing currently claimed by blacks against the "white" system is bullshit.

That's what my sources tell me over and over. That's what my experiences tell me over and over. Doesn't mean there isn't isolated instances here and there. Systemic? Unh uh.

The claimants have very little standing to even bring the thin/weak complaints they have put forth.

Absolutely no justification for any of the destruction we have seen recently. None whatsoever in any way shape or form.

My off topic comment is that while I disagree with the vilification of cops I do think they are 15 yrs late.

[buffalobo]

Let me retract the first statement and replace with, "when people go out of their way to not understand something, don't get your hopes up.

This has already been demonstrated in this thread, including your response to me. Your immediate jump to, "Oh you're just trying to sounds woke, huh huh." Is exactly why a thread like to is a lost cause. I won't hop in and ruin the conversation. Have fun with the conversation.

I keep hearing how "the system is racist" and "systemic racism"

Not sure what the system is and what it does so have no insight as to it's prejudice.

Let's hear the myriad of explanations of the system and how it might be racist.

Irving, if you can make a comment on topic I won't get pissed. I see both post as trolling by the standard I set in the OP.

Maybe you should sit this one out.

[Irving]

I plan on watching from the sidelines just in case any intellectuals show up.

That you thought either of my comments were trolling is insulting, and a little too on the nose of my point. The fact that the comment came from me, and it was immediately swept under the rug as trolling or being woke is no surprise. Instant write off, zero effort to even engage in conversation.

If this thread somehow doesn't turn into a circle jerk of high-fiving the same old comments from a place of comfort, I'll be the first to speak up about it.

[buffalobo]

Or you could actually speak to the topic instead of avoiding it.

[buffalobo]

Irving, do the claimants have standing and do their complaints hold water?

If so, how?