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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    We just need to flatten the curve they said...

    ... and keep it there instead of letting it jump back up like other states, while letting at least some more people get back to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    ... and keep it there instead of letting it jump back up like other states, while letting at least some more people get back to work.
    Who's getting to go back to work that hasn't already? Nobody. It was just a couple weeks ago the governor closed bars again. The North Pole was closed a couple weeks ago. Just to name a couple examples.

    More businesses are being closed, he hasn't cleared any more to open. Unless I missed something?

    The death rate has been stable for a month, but restrictions are tightening. That doesn't make sense.

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    Reading the comments on Governor Polis' social media accounts, every other comment includes "It's also not safe to open schools in August. Please mandate schools close until it's safe for our kids."

    This is more than masks. This is insanity. It's unadulterated fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Who's getting to go back to work that hasn't already? Nobody. It was just a couple weeks ago the governor closed bars again. The North Pole was closed a couple weeks ago. Just to name a couple examples.

    More businesses are being closed, he hasn't cleared any more to open. Unless I missed something?

    The death rate has been stable for a month, but restrictions are tightening. That doesn't make sense.
    I would say its based on observation of other states that have been unable to maintain a "flattened curve". I agree that re-closure of business is problematic, but wearing a mask and not standing nut to butt isn't re-closure.

    I had to go to Walmart last night- 100% of staff were masked and 80% of customers were also masked. The ones that weren't were a cross-section ranging across Confederate flag t-shirt lifted truck redneck types, urban yute pimped lowered Honda types, and families with children. I guess who is acting like a "Karen" is in the eye of the beholder.

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    If some political asshole said, "This virus repels from the color pink. I mandate that everyone wears a pink ribbon on their head to help reduce the spread blah blah blah I am great and omnipotent so obey me", would you do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    This is more than masks. This is insanity. It's unadulterated fear.
    I agree that the "keep everything closed until this goes away" is just as dangerous, or more, than the actual sickness. The goal should be to minimize vectors for transmission while trying to re-establish as much of the economy (and "normal" life) as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    If some political asshole said, "This virus repels from the color pink. I mandate that everyone wears a pink ribbon on their head to help reduce the spread blah blah blah I am great and omnipotent so obey me", would you do it?
    No. My position is based on being a person of a scientific/engineering background myself, and having direct family members who are disease researchers or microbiologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    What has been proven time and again is that even the "experts" don't know shit about this.

    Rate of transmission has been going up, but the deaths have been consistently falling, and the MSM doesn't talk about that statistic. Coincidence?

    When I see the way people handle their masks leaving a store, like stuffing it in a pocket or purse, just goes to show that this is medical theater. There's no strict guidance on what constitutes a "mask", they're not worn properly most of the time, and people keep touching them and adjusting them regularly. Just admit it, the mask is part of a costume.
    Exactly. For every medical expert that says "wear a mask" I can show you one that says "masks don't work". So anyone who thinks they have the inside, righteous scoop on this is, frankly, full of shit.

    Personally, I'm in the "masks don't work" camp. If for no other reason than how I see the vast majority of people wearing them. Constantly fiddle-fucking around with it, reaching inside it to scratch, adjusting it, wearing it under their nose, pulling it down under their chin, taking it off in one place and putting it on in another, etc. They're like gloves. Once they're contaminated and you start touching shit they're not much good any longer. It's somewhat like a surgeon that wears one mask or pair of gloves over several surgeries. I've actually seen people holding their mask in their teeth while they text or do something on their phone. It's ridiculous.

    I don't wear a mask unless a business or gov't entity that I need to do business with requires it. And I don't give a rat's ass if anyone else wears a mask. If you feel the need to, fine. But stop trying to pretend that a person is evil if they don't wear a mask or the rest of us "don't get it" or we're uninformed because we don't wear a mask.

    Personally, I still haven't decided how dangerous this thing is because there's so much conflicting information. Every time I start looking and find some "definitive" information another equally qualified source comes along and rebukes it. It's frustrating as hell, honestly. I don't wanna catch it. But I'm not gonna live in fear of it, either, because it ain't going anywhere anytime soon. It's pretty much gonna be around for the rest of my life. I'm just hoping for a good vaccine or other "cure" before my time to catch it comes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    It's not just masks folks. All of the local variances that had been approved were cancelled today too. Many more restrictions were instituted today by means of nullifying the local variances that the state had previously approved

    [For the record, I wear one when entering a place of business that requires one and I wear one in areas at my work that requires them]

    I'm not anti-mask. I'm anti fear based bullshit.
    Did they cancel the in-place variances . . . or just put a hold on new ones that were requested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    No. My position is based on being a person of a scientific/engineering background myself, and having direct family members who are disease researchers or microbiologists.
    Yeah, me too.

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