Government School and Home Schooling

[cstone]

They teach sex Ed every few years in school. I think I took some form of sex Ed at least four different times. Some sort of personal household and maybe very basic business accounting principles should be taught EVERY year. Even if just for a semester.

My favorite "sex Ed" class came in my Jr year of high school. The Xaverian brother teaching the class, being young and having taken a vow of celibacy, convinced us all of him being a qualified subject matter expert.

Very few of the government school teachers are experts in the subject they are teaching. Much of what is taught in the Ed programs in public universities is pedagogy. Applicable to managing classrooms and serving the institutions of learning. Whatever motivation a young teacher has to educate students is quickly wrung out of them and they become another dues paying member of the union, following the curriculum provided by the Board of Ed. Imagine parents being required to sign a permission slip to allow students to read Fahrenheit 451. Irony is never lost when observing the actions of government employees.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Those are the kinds of assumptions that have been failing people for centuries.

What assumptions? I didn't say kids did know those things, I said they should.

[GilpinGuy]

Thanks for the feedback everyone! I've been rather busy focusing on a potential move out of CO so I apologize for not responding sooner.

I've heard about this on the Tom Woods podcast for quite a while and just started looking into it:
Ron Paul Curriculum

Anyone have any experience with this?

[Irving]

What assumptions? I didn't say kids did know those things, I said they should.

I meant the assumption that personal finance starts earlier. I don't think it ever starts in school. I never had anything like that.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Why does personal finance have to start in school? Hell, the personal example I cited came from the way I managed haircut and bus money from my parents. Again, a statement, not an assumption. Maybe the bad assumption I had was that people on this board read and understood English.

[Gman]

Did your parents explain how investing in the stock markets works via a multi-month project tracking companies that you selected?

[Irving]

That's the point. You assume based off your experience, but not everyone is the same and has the same experiences. If we all knew everything we wouldn't need school at all right? It should be required in school, because as we know, not every parent does, or is even capable, of teaching all subjects. Just trying to add to the list. I wasn't trying to say that you were the reason that schools are bad. Just that when we assume people will do things, we're often disappointed.

[FoxtArt]

Even if you're not religious, there are certain religious-based homeschooling groups that may help bridge some of the gaps, the biggest of which is group outings and socializing and developing curriculum. On a side note, it is conservative leaning. It also may help offset some of the time requirement from the parents. I wouldn't know any of the organizations where you are, but occasionally large churches undertake it, making the social end while they join with larger agencies for the curriculum and some classroom education. Of course, it wouldn't be completely free.

PS: I don't consider myself religious but have no issue with my kids attending one. It's far better than what public school does, or in many cases, what I have time to do.

[Great-Kazoo]

Even if you're not religious, there are certain religious-based homeschooling groups that may help bridge some of the gaps, the biggest of which is group outings and socializing and developing curriculum. On a side note, it is conservative leaning. It also may help offset some of the time requirement from the parents. I wouldn't know any of the organizations where you are, but occasionally large churches undertake it, making the social end while they join with larger agencies for the curriculum and some classroom education. Of course, it wouldn't be completely free.

PS: I don't consider myself religious but have no issue with my kids attending one. It's far better than what public school does, or in many cases, what I have time to do.

Amen to that.

[clodhopper]

That's the point. You assume based off your experience, but not everyone is the same and has the same experiences. If we all knew everything we wouldn't need school at all right? It should be required in school, because as we know, not every parent does, or is even capable, of teaching all subjects. Just trying to add to the list. I wasn't trying to say that you were the reason that schools are bad. Just that when we assume people will do things, we're often disappointed.

The problem we face now is a full generation of parents have passed through the public system and never had personal finance training, are wholly incompetent with their own lives and have no chance of educating their kids at home. The solution is to reintroduce it to the school system so the kids have a chance to learn it somewhere. Unfortunately, most of the people in charge of schools feel there is no need to learn these type of self sufficiency topics. I need not go on about why that is.