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In just a short while, vax passports will be required for routine activities.
If I'm wrong, will send Fox a 30rd Pmag
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We need more state and local governments to ban them. There is absolutely zero need for them.
Also you can still carry, catch and transmitt the rona while vaxxed. It just helps to reduce the severity of the symptoms if you catch it.
"However, many conservatives believe that we have tried to play the logic and reason game for decades, only to be defeated by the Left over and over because, well, logic doesn't work."
Bingo. In an ideal world, let businesses do as they will because another is in close proximity or will spring up. In reality, we can see this isn't working, and businesses are caving to the most vocal 1%. Thus, it's time to fight fire with fire. Until such time as they learn the true consequences of their actions, I will support using their tactics against them.
Originally Posted by RblDiver
The suggested strategy is a lot like trying to argue with a narcissist. There is no such thing as winning an argument with a narcissist because the moment you play their game and engage them, they change the rules. When they have no moral backbone, it is foolish to think you can use their own strategy against them. They will just adapt and turn you into a new kind of "bad guy" no matter what position you take.
If you want to win in an argument with a narcissist, you don't play their game in the first place.
Here, since they have a majority of the press, I'm pretty sure "using their tactic" just backfires. It might "feel good" to some people, but it isn't going to accomplish anything. It will be manipulatively recast, and on top of it, will just show new hearts, minds, and souls that there is no better choice to be made when the left fails them.
If you want to beat any manipulative foe, the moment you engage in their game you've already lost. Try winning a board-game against someone who is actively editing the rulebook.
IMAGINE if conservatives celebrated the mans right to make his own business decisions, even when they disagreed with that. I WONDER if several people seeing that announcement would go "hmmm... they support me in my decision, but if I make a tiny gaffe I get riots and a tweet storm from the left. Maybe there is something to these guys..."
But nah. BURN IT DOWN. That'll teach them to convert to conservatism
Generally speaking, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. However, at this point, with too little long term data available as to the effects of the 'Rona vaccine, I'm not willing to receive this vaccination; yet. I've read a LOT of data on both the pro's and the cons of the various rona vaccines out there. Because you can still catch, carry and transmit the virus after vaccination, and with no real long term data available, I think the potential risk of what the vaccine might do to me isn't worth the risk. This is a personal decision and not meant to apply to anyone else.
I travel a lot for work (just spent 3 weeks in 2 different locations in CA in March. I drove there and back.). I have to go back to L.A. for a 4 day trip next month. I've heard discussion (and seen it mentioned here) that the airlines are "considering" requiring passengers be vaccinated in order to fly. Is this yet a hard requirement? My company's "preferred" airlines are United, Delta and American (in that order). Are any of these airlines already mandating the vaccine?
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I'm an airline pilot by day, but not for any of the carriers you've mentioned. I haven't heard of any airline requiring a vaccine to fly. I believe all airlines are enforcing a mask requirement for passengers and employees. It is my understanding that the use of a clear face shield is not acceptable in lieu of an actual mask, but if you plan to wear a shield instead of a mask, it'd be worth checking with the particular choice of airline for specifics on their mask requirements.
For what it's worth, there's kinda a blanket exception for the cockpit crew in that we can lose the masks if it inhibits our ability to do our jobs. From what I've seen and heard in discussing it with other pilots, almost every flight deck crew removes the masks once the cockpit door is closed. We make it a point to don a mask for bathroom breaks and whenever in view of the passengers.
My biggest concern is that the airlines will start requiring vaccination for all employees. I don't have the energy or desire to be a test case for a big legal battle and I've been told that there's precedent supporting employers requiring vaccinations for employees as a condition of continued employment. I haven't taken time to do the legal research on my own because, frankly, I think I'd be wasting my time to oppose it even if I'm right. I have zero faith that our union (ALPA) will do anything but bend to whatever the winds of public opinion are blowing at the time. There's no way I'm going to give up a very well-paying job and throw away 20+ years of career advancement, so I expect I'll eventually be vaccinated.
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I was listening to radio and they were pushing for HPV vaccines for kids.
No vaccine, no touching of peepee/VaJJ.
I though I heard KOA last week from someone they were interviewing that Delta and American Airlines were looking into rona vax passports to be required for thier flights. Same for the cruise industry.
Vaccine cards - too big to put in a wallet, poor quality production.
In the 60's, I traveled in Europe and Africa with a military ID and my shot record - a small folding document that listed date and type of every shot.
No passport.
Times change, trust changes, and criminals figure stuff out fast.
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