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    From what I've gathered:

    24 year-old armorer brought her personal firearm with live ammo to the set - loaded. She's nothing new to the gun world and 100% should've known better.
    Union crew walked off set due to multiple concerns over safety. In Law Enforcement, we call that...A CLUE.
    Baldwin, being the head cheese, basically said, "F them, hire non-union workers and let's keep rolling".
    Baldwin points loaded firearm at camera, intentionally pulls trigger, kills Halyna Hutchins.
    Question: Where was the "armorer"? Is she the one who handed it to Baldwin? If so, why did she not recognize it as her personal firearm?
    Statement: Any time someone hands me a firearm or I pick one up, a magazine and chamber check is completed to determine if the firearm is loaded and regardless...it is ALWAYS treated as such. Apparently Baldwin missed that little ditty of safety.
    I too believe there is a lot more to this story than what is being released. Baldwin is a flaming piece of excrement, however; the blame doesn't rely solely on him for the death. Should he bare the brunt of the financial responsibility in this situation? 100% absolutely. This isn't his first rodeo with filming movies and he should've known better. I am assuming he's the type of Hollywood dolt that acts as though he is above everyone else and no one is gonna tell him how to run his set.

    One point, look at how many different prop guns are used in the John Wick series and not a single person killed on those sets. How many thousands of blanks are fired in those films?
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    Affidavit came out. They weren't filming when it happened. Baldwin was "practicing his draw" when he killed that woman.

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    "Baldwin was 'practicing his draw' when he killed that woman."

    NRA:
    • ALWAYS Keep The Gun Pointed In A Safe Direction. [VIOLATED]
    • ALWAYS Keep Your Finger Off The Trigger Until Ready To Shoot.
    • ALWAYS Keep The Gun Unloaded Until Ready To Use. [VIOLATED]


    Cooper's rules:
    • All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are. [VIOLATED]
    • Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. [VIOLATED]
    • Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
    • Identify your target, and what is behind it. [VIOLATED]

    I'm giving him a bye on the trigger since everyone, including us, bends that rule when we do a dry press of the trigger. But unlike Baldwin, people educated in gun handling won't do a dry press while violating any of the other rules just in case we eff up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeeze View Post
    Question: Where was the "armorer"? Is she the one who handed it to Baldwin? If so, why did she not recognize it as her personal firearm?
    Statement: Any time someone hands me a firearm or I pick one up, a magazine and chamber check is completed to determine if the firearm is loaded and regardless...it is ALWAYS treated as such. Apparently Baldwin missed that little ditty of safety.
    From posts from industry people - the armorer wasn't there, and the First Assistant Director handed the gun to Baldwin, telling him it was cleared.
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    "All that it is necessary to establish for involuntary manslaughter by the use of a loaded firearm is that a defendant had in his hands a gun which at some time had been loaded and that he handled it, whether drunk, drinking or sober, without due caution and circumspection and that death resulted.”

    State v. Gilliam, 288 P.2d 675 (NM Sup. Ct. 1955)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Affidavit came out. They weren't filming when it happened. Baldwin was "practicing his draw" when he killed that woman.
    I didn't think it was possible for me to think less of this "celebrity". Reading this ... I was wrong.
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    Yup

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    If A.B. is charged w federal involuntary manslaughter, and found guilty, will that prevent him from doing further movies involving guns?

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    FJB and FAB...

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