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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    Reading about defense wanting mistrial because of drone video quality.

    "Regardless, the defense said that they have spoken with Rittenhouse and will be asking for a mistrial because they would have approached the trial differently if they had the higher-quality video."

    Having not watched the trial, what is so critical about the drone video?



    A different question. Can the judge wait for a verdict before declaring a mistrial?

    As an example, the judge see "not guilty" and then just lets it stand and its over [well it never really over] but if he see a "guilty" can he say the prosecution was out of line and declare a mistrial? Or does he have to declare a mistrial before a verdict?
    Remember something stated earlier in the thread...

    A judge can overturn any verdict of a jury, with the ONLY exception being one of innocence (the Judge cannot overturn that and order the defendant guilty)

    A judge doesn't even have to well justify it. Being the judge's cousin is good enough. (some tongue and cheekiness on this point)

    So to answer your question: Absolutely, the judge can wait until a jury verdict- and they do - and then they'll make the verdict whatever the fuck they want either by mistrial or by directed verdict. The only power a jury really has is to find someone innocent, and even then it rarely occurs unless the judge desires that outcome. If a judge is not vested in the outcome of a case (which is common) then they won't care either way, but a vested judge will absolutely get the verdict they want to get.

    PS, I remember who said that

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    So to answer your question: Absolutely, the judge can wait until a jury verdict- and they do - and then they'll make the verdict whatever the fuck they want either by mistrial or by directed verdict. The only power a jury really has is to find someone innocent, and even then it rarely occurs unless the judge desires that outcome. If a judge is not vested in the outcome of a case (which is common) then they won't care either way, but a vested judge will absolutely get the verdict they want to get.

    PS, I remember who said that
    That is scary as hell...

    IIRC you are an attorney and so have 1st hand experience with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    If he doesnt get his $10M settlement, he be will such a catch that he may be doing something else with his left hand too....
    His civil suit is toast. He admitted under oath that he withheld the information in the complaint that he was armed with a handgun when he was shot. He also testified that he wasn't shot until he pointed the gun at Kyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    State blames video compression on defense's cell phone.
    Defense tells judge that she never opened it on her phone, ONLY the evidentiary laptop.
    File size differs quite a bit.

    AND THE ICING ON THE CAKE

    filename does not match.


    State claims that the compression and filename changed due to some shit during download.
    Prosecutor Krauss says it was an accident and he doesn't know how to change a file. There are images of his laptop as he was opening files for presentation that showed he had Handbrake installed on the system and the file dates for what was received and what was passed to the defense don't match.

    These prosecutors are corrupt as hell and know how to manipulate this judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Prosecutor Krauss says it was an accident and he doesn't know how to change a file. There are images of his laptop as he was opening files for presentation that showed he had Handbrake installed on the system and the file dates for what was received and what was passed to the defense don't match.

    These prosecutors are corrupt as hell and know how to manipulate this judge.
    Saw that. Handbrake isn't something that noobs are going to have on their desktop

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    I Kyles lawyers watching reddit / twitter / etc so this evidence of manipulation can be presented to the judge

    It is public information since it was on live broadcasts.

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    I guess another question in my mind, if the judge is going to dismiss with prejudice (which he should), why is he making Kyle suffer waiting on a verdict? Can't imagine the stress that kid has.

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    The judge in the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse banned MSNBC staff from the Kenosha courthouse following a police report that one of their journalists attempted to follow a bus transporting jury members.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...wing-jury-bus/

    ?I have instructed that no one from MSNBC news will be permitted in this building for the duration of this trial,? Schroeder added. ?It would go without thinking that someone who is following a jury bus?that?s an extremely serious matter, and will be referred to the proper authorities for further action.?
    Last edited by eddiememphis; 11-18-2021 at 12:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    I guess another question in my mind, if the judge is going to dismiss with prejudice (which he should), why is he making Kyle suffer waiting on a verdict? Can't imagine the stress that kid has.
    +1, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Tory View Post
    +1, here.
    Possibly to show he's unbiased. After the crap about letting Kyle pick the jurors, saluted a veteran, blah, blah, blah.


























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