No More Gasoline Cars

[doodguybro]

I don't really care how my car runs. I will be keeping my 2 smoker dirt bike though.

[Gman]

I bet Xcel is going to have a stampede of customers pulling out of their AC Rewards program after this.

I'm pretty sure the control is through the smart thermostat mfrs. Internet cloud connection. Xcel likely has agreements with Honeywell, Nest/Google, etc.

[00tec]

I bet Xcel is going to have a stampede of customers pulling out of their AC Rewards program after this.

I'm pretty sure the control is through the smart thermostat mfrs. Internet cloud connection. Xcel likely has agreements with Honeywell, Nest/Google, etc.

That's exactly it.
You have to register your thermostat credentials with xcel to let them play God.

To enroll, you'll need your thermostat manufacturer device credentials and either the email address or phone number associated with your account.

It would be funny just to keep the linked thermostat plugged in to 24v and keep it unplugged from the control circuit while running a second thermostat actually maintaining the HVAC

[BushMasterBoy]

They could promote solar powered attic fans. I got one of these. Good for barns, shed etc.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Master-Flow...ent/1000049635

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

On the thermostat, couldn?t you just ?hot-wire? it to run?.


It was probably 15 years ago I was at California CEC (energy commission?) TItle 24 meeting for an unrelated matter, but before my part, they talked about thermostats. They had a Honeywell and another guy there from the thermostat side and they were like ?Sure we can change people?s thermostat setting from a central location.? They had already run pilot programs, and they said the key was to not just jump it up, you have to slowly raise the temp so that people don?t notice it. The CEC guys laughed, the Honeywell guy laughed and I was like ?Sweet baby Jesus, these people are treating us like frogs or lobsters.? On the inside I said this.

Wait till there is an Al Gore Rythum that looks at your social media activity, registered pro-nouns, social welfare score, and then sets your thermostat?

[Gman]

On the thermostat, you could have swapped it with a dumb thermostat or another that wasn't registered. Would be interesting to see if you could have factory reset it and not reconnected to the cloud during their "emergency". "Oops, my Wi-Fi went down. Maybe my router overheated or something"?

ETA: Corrected Tapatalk punctuation fun.

[Zundfolge]

What I'm wondering is if there is some way to hook up the "smart" thermostat to nothing (maybe using the control module from another ac/furnace or build something with an Arduino or something that "spoofs" an HVAC control unit) but Xcel would think its hooked to a furnace/ac and then put an analog thermostat on your actual furnace/ac.

[BushMasterBoy]

It is probably considered "wire fraud".

[eddiememphis]

Wait till there is an Al Gore Rythum that looks at your social media activity, registered pro-nouns, social welfare score, and then sets your thermostat?

The wait is over.

Read about stakeholder capitalism, public-private partnerships and ESG scores.

Once relegated to the fringes of conspiracy sites, these ideas have emerged from the shadows and become acceptable and implemented.

We are only seeing the beginning as IoT is becoming less avoidable.

Credentialed experts are determined to run your life they way they see fit. They increasingly have the ability to do it.

[Zundfolge]

It is probably considered "wire fraud".

The wait is over.

Read about stakeholder capitalism, public-private partnerships and ESG scores...

And just wait until the dollar is replaced with a digital dollar, then every transaction you make will be monitored in real time (and can be shut down in milliseconds for whatever BS PC reasons they want).