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    Since this came from Epps I must be missing something in the language. Maybe someone can show me where it is.

    There must be an exception for Palestinians and Antisemites in this bill?

    https://www.coloradopolitics.com/leg...b5c2e639b.html

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    This state is fully lost. Were trying our hardest to stay here 3 more years till my youngest son graduates but Im not sure were going to be able to make it. Fucking sucks how colorado has gone down hill so fast. I see this assault weapons ban passing for sure this year with little to no opposition.
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    The Colorado legislature has become the clown show of the country. Even for far left, anti-gun types the emotional, non-sensical rhetoric in this bill is pretty damned impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast556 View Post
    I see this assault weapons ban passing for sure this year with little to no opposition.
    Not in it's current form. It is too sweeping and punitive. It is merely posturing.

    If the bill were rewritten, which it likely will be, it would be much more likely to pass.

    Remember, Polis is running for President. He wouldn't want signing this bill into law on his record.

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    I'm not so confident this go around. Last time they pushed it too late in the legislative session. That is a significant reason why the last version was a non-issue.
    This is earlier, and has mentioned, cleans up some issues (such as banning certain types of ammo in the last iteration).

    If it gets passed by the legislature and lands on Polis' desk, what is his presidential outlook if he refuses to sign it, and then 2 months later, a man who mutilated his genitals shoots up another location?

    Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...

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    Also for the record, it is very common to have amendments/corrections to a bill throughout the process. They might edit the punitive provisions to get it passed.

    I don't suggest the sky is falling, only that anyone in Colorado should be operating as if this kind of bill is going to eventually pass. This year, next year, inside of the next five years, highly likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    I'm not so confident this go around. Last time they pushed it too late in the legislative session. That is a significant reason why the last version was a non-issue.
    This is earlier, and has mentioned, cleans up some issues (such as banning certain types of ammo in the last iteration).

    If it gets passed by the legislature and lands on Polis' desk, what is his presidential outlook if he refuses to sign it, and then 2 months later, a man who mutilated his genitals shoots up another location?

    Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...
    Well most MSM isn’t saying that the “woman” who shot up lakewood church was a man..

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    One of the really troubling parts this bill makes it illegal to “offer for sale”

    I always make the statement, “it’s not for sale, but for enough money everything is for sale” (which is true)

    Imagine the AG having their employees UC (or cops) at gun ranges….

    “Hey, that is a nice rifle.. wanna sell it”?

    My smart ass answer “No, but everything for sale for enough money”. Boom violation of criminal code. And a $250k civil penalty.

    And how does a $250k (and then $500k) make it into a criminal statute ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...
    The extremes do not decide elections, the middle does. If he appears to govern middle left, his chances of winning are much greater than if he takes a far left stance.

    Quote Originally Posted by DDT951 View Post
    Well most MSM isn?t saying that the ?woman? who shot up lakewood church was a man..
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...shooter-had-h/
    https://www.advocate.com/news/false-...-texas-shooter

    Commander Christopher Hassig of the Houston Police Department Homicide Division said the woman used male aliases in the past, including Jeffrey Escalante, but was female.
    Finner later clarified, "It's the biological mother," referring to the critically injured 7-year-old boy who was shot in the head.

    I can't find anything that disputes the killer was not a woman, other than internet speculation put forth to fit narratives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    Not in it's current form. It is too sweeping and punitive. It is merely posturing.

    If the bill were rewritten, which it likely will be, it would be much more likely to pass.

    Remember, Polis is running for President. He wouldn't want signing this bill into law on his record.
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    I'm not so confident this go around. Last time they pushed it too late in the legislative session. That is a significant reason why the last version was a non-issue.
    This is earlier, and has mentioned, cleans up some issues (such as banning certain types of ammo in the last iteration).

    If it gets passed by the legislature and lands on Polis' desk, what is his presidential outlook if he refuses to sign it, and then 2 months later, a man who mutilated his genitals shoots up another location?

    Polis isn't going to be selling himself to the conservative party in any future hypothetical election...
    Polis probably knows that AWB are losers- especially as the courts are going to (hopefully) clean up this year with the AWB cases that are on their doorstep. But what he doesn’t really want it a ‘mess’, so if you want Polis to kill this, he has to get it done before it reaches his desk. That means making noise and letting Polis know that we are going to make the process ugly for him poltically.

    I can’t believe that I’m thinking about giving money to RMGO after Dudley was such a douche, but he may be they perfect a-hole for this.
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