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    What I really want to know is who get’s trumps guns??? On a serious note I’m having a hard time thinking of any country’s leader I respect any more, sad.

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    Milei? But I fear we may have to follow Argentinas devolution before any American is ready to to vote for someone like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehaus View Post
    Were we fucked the last time he won?


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    I'll put it this way...
    Home Buyers Need to Earn $47,000 More Than in 2020 - Zillow Research

    In 2020, a household earning $59,000 annually could comfortably afford the monthly mortgage on a typical U.S. home, spending no more than 30% of its income with a 10% down payment. That was below the U.S. median income of about $66,000, meaning more than half of American households had the financial means to afford homeownership.
    Now, the roughly $106,500 needed to comfortably afford the mortgage payment on a typical home is well above what a typical U.S. household earns each year, estimated at about $81,000.


    Sure, people will knee jerk and say "Thats BIDENECONOMICS". Both Biden and Trump contributed to this, with the largest contributor to date being Trump w/ his 40% increase to the national debt, by about 8 Trillion dollars in a single term as well as support for pandemic vote buying. There's a time lag with all the fiat printing before it impacts inflation, coupled with the pandemic "stimulus" fraud, which created supply chain issues that drove it even higher.

    Another four years of this shit, and we may as well be communist. It'll feel that way @ the grocery store, gas station, or w/ utility payments to anyone that isn't the 1/2 of the 1%.

    So yes, you're fucked either way. Or is anyone in this thread feel like their spending power is equal to the start of Trump's presidency?

    The financial issues experienced today are not all Trump. But it's also only Biden in fraction. It will NOT get better. We are now rolling into the start of a recession (yes I'm calling it) or worse. Trump's takes credit for things he is only responsible for in the slightest accord, and then pushes responsibility off for problems he is largely responsible for.

    Another four years of Trump will be economically quite difficult for most people this go around... as will another four of Biden.

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    Presidents get more credit and more blame than they deserve.

    Congress writes the laws and spends the money- the should be blamed for the country's financial destruction.

    Democrats propose a 10% increase, Republicans agree to a 5% increase and they both call it a cut. It is complete bullshit and transparent as can be yet they continue spending.

    We are headed for much more than a recession.

    Every middle aged man (which I am assuming most of us are) throughout time has looked around and said, "That's it- we're doomed." This feels like it may be not the end of the Republic, but a dramatic shift in the freedoms and opportunities of the common man.

    An American economic collapse will certainly affect the rest of the world but it will be especially brutal here.

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    I'll just post this here.

    https://www.usdebtclock.org/

    FoxtArt.

    Do you believe Trump (running as a Republican) will spend more than Biden (running as a Democrat)?

    As someone above said, the Congress controls spending. Which President would be better at asking Congress to control spending?

    Regarding what is a Conservative, which question I think you fostered up above, and one of your go to questions.

    A Conservative, is hesitant to change. Versus a Progressive, that will change often for no reason.

    Social Conservatives, enjoy the definition of Marriage, as between a Man and his Wife.
    Economic Conservatives, enjoy a Laissez-faire approach to the economy.
    A Progressive, will accept that the most important thing in the world, is Blue Hair.
    A Progressive, will feel Communism is important, so everyone is equally in squalor.

    -John
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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    I'll just post this here.

    https://www.usdebtclock.org/

    FoxtArt.

    Do you believe Trump (running as a Republican) will spend more than Biden (running as a Democrat)?

    As someone above said, the Congress controls spending. Which President would be better at asking Congress to control spending?

    Regarding what is a Conservative, which question I think you fostered up above, and one of your go to questions.

    A Conservative, is hesitant to change. Versus a Progressive, that will change often for no reason.

    Social Conservatives, enjoy the definition of Marriage, as between a Man and his Wife.
    Economic Conservatives, enjoy a Laissez-faire approach to the economy.
    A Progressive, will accept that the most important thing in the world, is Blue Hair.
    A Progressive, will feel Communism is important, so everyone is equally in squalor.

    -John
    John, don't use their language.

    Progressive is a nonsense word used by them to camouflage their true intent.

    Hey, what's wrong with progress?

    As Mike Rosen has said 10,000 times, it is progress on the road to socialism.

    Call them what they are- Leftists.

    Not liberals. That is different. Leftists are socialist utopians. The only way everyone is equal is when no one is special.

    Achieved through total centralized government control of not just the production and distribution of goods and services, but control of thought as well.

    And they have caught your ear since you use their words.

    Replacing “offender” with “justice-impacted individual.”

    Bums and hobos are homeless... nope. Those experiencing homeless. Nope. Unhoused...

    Use word that show their true colors.

    Leftist. Socialist. Commie. Fucking asshole with a hand in my pocket and a smile on his face.

    The relentless creep of socialism is very real.

    We must do what we can to slow the tide, every day in every way.

    Because they will never stop.
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    aight, yes, I am feeling it.

    Just nobody, I mean, nobody, uses the word leftist today.

    Which is understandable if they are all leftists...

    Love, Mike Rosen...

    Thanks, will think on this.

    -John

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    It's a common misconception that congress is responsible for the budget.

    https://www.usa.gov/federal-budget-process

    Congress has a role too, but it's actually the executive that develops the budget. Congress gets the publicity for the shutdown drama.

    I don't have a crystal ball to say who will spend more, but being Trump leads all historical and current presidents for "spending the most" by dollars, percentages, even inflation adjusted, I honestly think a random 16 year old girl with an unlimited AmEx card would be more fiscally responsible.

    ETA: Agree on the constant recasting of the vernacular, and in the wrong way.

    Instead of bums, I like distinguishing between homeless (sleeping in car, couch surfing, often employed), and transient (addict who is wasting our planet's oxygen).

    "Unhoused" is dumb. What the spend on solving it is even more. LA County spends between 600k-1million per unit to build housing for the "unhoused". That's a wild derail, I know, but also sort of related. Spending reached critical mass during the pandemic and is never coming back. We're going to feel like we're soviet regardless in a few years. You might be able to buy a new cheap TV every year, but you'll only be able to buy the cheapest generic cereal and rice at 50% of your net income.

    Unless you're unhoused, of course. Steaks and stuff for those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    Instead of bums, I like distinguishing between homeless (sleeping in car, couch surfing, often employed), and transient (addict who is wasting our planet's oxygen).

    "Unhoused" is dumb. What the spend on solving it is even more. LA County spends between 600k-1million per unit to build housing for the "unhoused". That's a wild derail, I know, but also sort of related. Spending reached critical mass during the pandemic and is never coming back. We're going to feel like we're soviet regardless in a few years. You might be able to buy a new cheap TV every year, but you'll only be able to buy the cheapest generic cereal and rice at 50% of your net income.

    Unless you're unhoused, of course. Steaks and stuff for those people.
    At this point, the only viable solution for rampant homelessness, addiction, and illegal immigration seems to be Soylent Green production facilities. I believe that would solve many societal problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    At this point, the only viable solution for rampant homelessness, addiction, and illegal immigration seems to be Soylent Green production facilities. I believe that would solve many societal problems.
    Umm excuse me waiter. Yes? there's a syringe in my food ration.
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