making an llc

[SAnd]

Have you personally gotten a Form 1 or Form 4 approved on a trust without supplying a finger print card?

Yes, I have had both Form 1's and Form 4's approved on a trust without submitting fingerprints or other personal information. On the Form 4s I had to fill out a 4473 when I picked them up but there was no background check done then.

On a related subject -
The ATF had a table at a recent Tanner gun show in Denver. They said to me that the ATF has changed its' policy concerning background checks for NFA items. I was told that from now on that the individual picking up a item on a trust or corporate type entity will have to pass a background check as if they were picking up a regular gun. I haven't been able to find anything on the BATFE website about this though.

[Irving]

This is great news. I remember back in 08-09 people were having a real difficult time finding finger print cards. I guess they all lived in areas with sheriffs that followed the law.

[ZombieKiller25]

That's good to know. I always assumed people turning in forms with finger print cards had trusts.

The only time you actually need to turn in cards is when your doing it as an individual.

[DOC]

Now if we could just get the registry open or eliminated for machine guns we could all put our LLC's to good use.

[tmckay2]

hey on one of the forms it asked if you will be using this llc for alcohol, tobacco, or firearms. what do i answer there? also do i have to fill out the unemployment form or anything else other than the initial form that i pay the $50 for and the EIN? want to make sure i got all the bases covered.

also, to the atf im sending two copies of the form 1, a copy of my llc organization paper, and two copies of the compliance forms and the $200 check. thats it right?

[ZombieKiller25]

hey on one of the forms it asked if you will be using this llc for alcohol, tobacco, or firearms. what do i answer there? also do i have to fill out the unemployment form or anything else other than the initial form that i pay the $50 for and the EIN? want to make sure i got all the bases covered.

also, to the atf im sending two copies of the form 1, a copy of my llc organization paper, and two copies of the compliance forms and the $200 check. thats it right?

I'm not sure what form your talking about when it comes to A, T or F. I never had those questions when I filled out my LLC on the state website. You also don't need an EIN as you won't be filing taxes.

When I submit my Form's I send two copies of everything.

[c5fourj]

For what it's worth, i just talked to the Denver office of the BATF yesterday and they told me the would not issue a stamp to a LLC

[ZombieKiller25]

For what it's worth, i just talked to the Denver office of the BATF yesterday and they told me the would not issue a stamp to a LLC

LOL...and he obviously doesn't know his ass from his elbow.

[c5fourj]

Just repeating what i was told, here is their number 3/844-7545.

I live in Adams Co. and the Sheriff will not sign off if you are a "collector"
so i am trying to get around the county, my gun dealer said the best way would be to develop a Trust which would allow me to skip the county.

Now looking for an Attorney that is savy to the process.

[SAnd]

The local field office doesn't have anything to do with NFA transfers. I would contact the ATF headquarters before I did a trust. That's if you would rather do it on a LLC or something else. It would be a radical change if they stopped. I'm sure the other NFA forums I frequent would be screaming about it if they have stopped taking LLC's.