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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I don't care if it's from the left, right, or center; I'm tired of hearing it. It signals the debate is just done, no progress is going to happen from there on.

    Here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...nazi-analogies

    This sums it up pretty nicely. Both sides drag out Nazi references, and they get called out.

    We should tell all TV commentators that when they feel the need to make a Nazi reference, they look at "When insults had class" and pick a good one.

    http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2...insults-p1.php

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    I hope we care if its from left, right or center because if we fail to look at the source we fail to see the truth.

    A legit comparison of any thing, even the scary we dont want to go their nazi's, is not shuting down the debate, name calling, refusing to engage in intellectual discussions and saying a subject is off limits because its not P.C. is what shuts down debate.

    The Stewart show does nothing to educate people or stimulate debate, it is a comedy show and is all done for entertainment, the problem is many of its viewers dont realize this. Back to my first point of knowing the source of the info, Stewart is poor example of both sides of the issue, thats one side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim02 View Post

    The Stewart show does nothing to educate people or stimulate debate, it is a comedy show and is all done for entertainment, the problem is many of its viewers dont realize this. Back to my first point of knowing the source of the info, Stewart is poor example of both sides of the issue, thats one side.
    You don't think that satire, with a bit of belief, does nothing to educate or stimulate debate? In the age we live in, it plays a huge part. but your point is valid about many viewers don't realize that, but that's not mutually exclusive to people on the left, right, or whatever.

    In my opinion, I think the same of people like Glen Beck, Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh though, so...

    Too many people follow blindly is my point, again, not exclusive to one side, and I see that far too often without acknowledging that we all do it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettodub View Post
    You don't think that satire, with a bit of belief, does nothing to educate or stimulate debate?
    Debate can be stimulated in many ways, the point was that Stewart and his viewers are not in this for debate, its a one sided issue with them.
    In the age we live in, it plays a huge part. but your point is valid about many viewers don't realize that, but that's not mutually exclusive to people on the left, right, or whatever.

    In my opinion, I think the same of people like Glen Beck, Pat Robertson or Rush Limbaugh though, so...
    I would not lump Beck in here, I watched Beck take apart Bush and the GOP when he was on CNN, Beck is not a one sided pony.

    Too many people follow blindly is my point, again, not exclusive to one side, and I see that far too often without acknowledging that we all do it...
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    Hang on... did someone try to refute the vid with media matters and the daily show? I am on my cell... I GOTTA read this when I am back!!
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    Yes, because a video on YouTube is a credible source.

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    And I'm still thankful Planned Parenthood exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Yes, because a video on YouTube is a credible source.
    Youtube is not a source, it is a media medium. For that matter.. here is Media Matter channel on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/mediamatters4america
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    Quote Originally Posted by MB888 View Post
    Youtube is not a source, it is a media medium. For that matter.. here is Media Matter channel on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/mediamatters4america
    Yay, lets argue semantics. Yes, because LiveAction.org is a more credible source.

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    Could anyone refute what the Planned parenthood manager said? There were specific questions and clear mentioning of underage, she answered it clearly. Pro-choicer can defend the planned parenthood all you want. I am questioning this video in which this lady was caught doing. In my personal view, encouraging lies about age, legality, specifically what not to say and what to say should have not happened, period.

    And yes, you are correct, this is as bad as if a gun store owner would have shown the loophole to sell guns to illegals or minor. Yes, obviously LiveAction had to go through multiple locations to catch this act.

    If sources of the publication is so important ...
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...r-aiding-pimp/
    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/0...vice-to-pimps/
    http://www.examiner.com/media-cultur...afficking-tips
    http://gawker.com/5749001/conservati...ned-parenthood

    I can relate with the right being up in arm about this, but the best response from the left thus far is...

    Anyway, social workers and anyone else concerned primarily with helping poor or underserved populations: Beware friendly pimps and hos. The GOP will be riding this trick for a while.
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    All I'm saying is the Planned Parenthood supervisor's ONLY concern is that individuals regardless of age, sex, race or employment can get help in practicing safe sex or medical help. She is not the police. I cannot say whether or not she reported this, and it is not her responsibility to see that the police took action.

    Her only concern is getting them help by whatever means necessary. A man comes into a hospital with a gunshot wound saying he just robbed a bank and the guard shot him, his wounds are treated first and then the police are notified. Doctors aren't expected to say, "No, you committed a crime so you do not deserve treatment."

    As this sort of thing is very uncommon (underage prostition rings going to public services to seek help), who knows what her plan was. As stated in some of the articles, Planned Parenthood called the FBI to report this activity.

    Also, one nurse at a Planned Parenthood does not represent the organization in any way.

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