Constitutional Carry Act of 2011

[jz2008]

Like I stated, thats my opinion. Im a CCW guy who has done his homework and watches this stuff carefully so I know about the stats. All I saying that im not convinced CC is a great idea.

There is already, and again in my opinion.... a serious lack of training for quite a lot of people that have got the CCW permits and i think that CC promotes the potential for unsafe behavior even further. If there is no required permit to get it , no training and no extensive BG than any, Tom, Dick and Harry can just start walking around with a gun tucked in their pants and frankly, that scares me.

I know for a fact that at 21 there was no way I was even close enough to be responsible for ccw ( 40 now )or the ramifications of being in a shoot and thats pretty scary. I know that everyones MMV but its it what it is.

I admire your ability to not let facts influence your opinion.

So are there any other Constitutional rights that you think should require tribute and government permission?

[newracer]

Unless the laws and literature have changed the minimum age for concealed carry of a handgun is 21.

21 is to obtain a concealed handgun permit. At 18 you can legally own a handgun and open carry. If this law passed at 18 you could carry concealed.

[newracer]

Like I stated, thats my opinion. Im a CCW guy who has done his homework and watches this stuff carefully so I know about the stats. All I saying that im not convinced CC is a great idea.

There is already, and again in my opinion.... a serious lack of training for quite a lot of people that have got the CCW permits and i think that CC promotes the potential for unsafe behavior even further. If there is no required permit to get it , no training and no extensive BG than any, Tom, Dick and Harry can just start walking around with a gun tucked in their pants and frankly, that scares me.

I know for a fact that at 21 there was no way I was even close enough to be responsible for ccw ( 40 now )or the ramifications of being in a shoot and thats pretty scary. I know that everyones MMV but its it what it is.

If you are not sure that CC is a great idea then why do you have a permit?

Just because you were not responsible enough at 21 does not mean no one is.

[AK47 Ranger]

CCW Conceal carry.

CC Constitutional carry.

I didnt say that anyone at 21 isnt responsible enough, I said I wasnt. Furthermore i would say that quite a few would fall under the same catergory. Do you think thats not a fair assement?


does that clear it up?

If you are not sure that CC is a great idea then why do you have a permit?

Just because you were not responsible enough at 21 does not mean no one is.

[newracer]

I think those that are responsible enough would do so and there would be no problems.

I think those that are not responsible enough probably have other priorities, like spending their money partying, rather than on firearms.

I also think many criminals carry concealed anyways.

I also think many people are not responsible enough to vote or drive a car.

ETA: just because quite a few might fall under the category does not mean the rights of those who do not should be infringed.

[Daniel_187]

One Thing I don't like about Colorado's CCW program is the damn cost(at least in Boulder County) its around $152 for it not including the class, finger print, and Photo

[AK47 Ranger]

Look, before you get your panties in a twist even further.

I never said that the facts were anyting other than that. I can read just fine.

Again my point, and I understand our rights and the constitution. I just don't think letting everyone carry a concealed weapon is great idea without some form of training and a BG check.

So the men show up one day to collect my guns...Gee, wonder how I'll be handing them over.........
Does that sound patriotic and a big enough advocasy of our rights under the constitution as a free man for ya?

Ive said enough.

I admire your ability to not let facts influence your opinion.

So are there any other Constitutional rights that you think should require tribute and government permission?

[TFOGGER]

I might point out, all of the arguments against Constitutional Carry have at one time or another been used by the antigunners against CCW with a permit, open carry, even handgun ownership in general.

"Average people don't have sufficient training to carry/own guns."

"Having too many guns in the general public will cause chaos"

"There are too many idiots out there, only the police and military(subtitute "properly trained, or can pass an FBI check") should have guns"

Any of those sound familiar? Yet, since Colorado passed "shall issue" for CHPs in 2003, crime in every category (particularly violent crime) has dropped precipitously, as have gun related deaths. Stupidity tends to be self correcting, thank Darwin...

[DeusExMachina]

I'm sick of the pre-emptive bullshit. We have laws for a reason.

If some retard attempts to carry and fails miserably, he will get attention from police. if he attempts to carry and shoots someone, he will go to jail for a very long time. Hopefully said retard will have thought about the consequences and either 1) make an effort or 2) not do it. And if he doesn't think about the consequences, then he's obviously going to have done it anyway.

There's no point in restricting rights in an attempt to prevent the future.

[Irving]

AK47, im interested in your opinion on open carry. Any 18yo and up who can legally own a firearm can open carry a handgun just about any where (no schools, fed buildings...ect). If you think that this House Bill is gonna encourage "yahoo's" to carry a gun and make it the wild west why wouldn't they already?

Open Carry...Why advertise or create attention is my thought. 18 years carry a handgun? You mean 21. sorry im sort on time for this response as i have a haircut to get to.....be back in a little bit. LOL

AK47 Ranger, you are dodging the question here. Your thoughts on open vs concealed carry are not the question asked of you. The question was that since open carry is legal now, and has been legal for many years, why haven't your fears already materialized. "Why advertise or create attention is my thought?" is not really an answer. No one is going to get butt hurt about your answer, because they already expect to disagree with you. But please at least attempt an answer.

Also, are you a post bot created by the government with the aim to steer opinion toward the views of the Federal government?