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    I'm going to get prepaid legal tomorrow morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I'm going to get prepaid legal tomorrow morning.
    Let us know what the cost is and what is covered for prepaid legal, and who is offering it.
    I'm sure I am not the only other member interested. Maybe if you think of it, ask about a goup discount service ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettodub View Post

    Your point about finding a good attorney beforehand is very valid and important.

    Tony Fabian is pretty well known, and recommended by quite a few

    http://www.ajfabianlaw.com/

    I see that he is part of the Armed Citizen's Legal Defense Network, LLC. Is that basically putting someone on retainer? I like the idea that they are more than local. What happens if you are travelling, either far from Denver in state, or out of state and something happens. A single Denver lawyer on retainer might not be the best answer?

    What do people think of the NRA insurance program that helps with legal defense costs. IIRC, it aint cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    I see that he is part of the Armed Citizen's Legal Defense Network, LLC. Is that basically putting someone on retainer? I like the idea that they are more than local. What happens if you are travelling, either far from Denver in state, or out of state and something happens. A single Denver lawyer on retainer might not be the best answer?

    What do people think of the NRA insurance program that helps with legal defense costs. IIRC, it aint cheap.
    IIRC, the basic coverage is $150ish, and covers up to 100,000 in fees.
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    Yeah, Leave it to our congress to be bipartisan when it comes to screwing the constitution.
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    Seriously - you want a state appointed lawyer? LOL. Just me, but I would not. That is like the fox guarding the hen house. IF you cannot afford a lawyer (as the Miranda portion says) then by all means take what you can get.

    As far as what do you say - I thinketh you talketh too muchet.

    Here is your problem - you will be under an enormous amount of stress like you have never been before (except perhaps for combat) and you will not likely remember what you planned out and you wil ltalk and say things that you don't remember - you will miss details and critical events.
    Also, the phone call you make to 911 is recorded, so you better make sure you don't say you just shot someone - you are admitting to a homocide. I would say someone's been shot, please send police and EMTs immediately. You will likely need to stay on the phone with the 911 operator. I would be silent and confirm you are there. I would desribe your clothing to officers arriving so they know you are the caller. The one who calls is generally assumed to be a victim. The officers are going to ask what happened. At that point you need your lawyer. The best practice would be to say nothing more than I was going to die, but I need to talk with my lawyer. If you need to go to the doctor then say so, but shutup. You will likely have your gun seized too. More than likely you will also be handcuffed and arrested - if nothing more than a Terry stop to secure the protecction of the officers.

    On the doctor thing - if you say anything to the EMT's or the doctor, it is unlikely protected speech. The doctor patient privilege invovles information necessary for your treatment, not that you defended your life, etc. Identify your injuries, do not explain the story. Remember, the doctors record things in their notes and on the charts. Your dicussions will be there. Someone will see it and read it.

    As for the husband and wife privilege - this applies only to compelling your spouse to testify against you for criminal matters. However, be careful, this privilege does not apply in civil court when the perp sues you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legaleagle View Post
    Also, the phone call you make to 911 is recorded, so you better make sure you don't say you just shot someone - you are admitting to a homocide.
    Not homocide!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Yeah, Leave it to our congress to be bipartisan when it comes to screwing the constitution.
    "Al Qaeda had better benefits than Wal-Mart. Although at Wal-Mart, you get to wear your vest more than once." -- Stephen Colbert

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    911: I've been the innocent victim of a crime, please hurry.

    Nothing more.

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    Default dudley had something useful

    Content on RMGO's site has been getting better, and here's a video by a law professor in Virginia that puts it so much better than anybody here could. anybody who watches this entire video and still thinks they should say ANYTHING to the police have got to reconsider, it's THAT important:

    http://www.rmgo.org/concealed-carry-...-your-attorney


    I hope the video can illustrate why it doesn't matter if you're truthful, or if you didn't do anything criminal, talking to the police is just WRONG.

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    SideShowBob: I was only joking. I was under the impression that people thought that pre-paid legal was a ripoff.
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